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    Thanks for answering the question about he chalk!! Never thought of that.....no, and that doesn't seem fair......I thought the ridgeback was pretty, too.....Our dog trainer had one named JJ, and he was always so bored, demonstrating what had to be taught, etc....that is until Cassie came...he loved Cassie!! Even his owner was laughing at him...he would get so excited when she came to class....he even wet on her back!! I guess he was "marking" his territory....his owner was mortified! HA....back to the topic....I loved the bloodhound and the wolf hound, too.....I also love black and tan coonhounds...don't know why, met one once, and he was soooo friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomersooner View Post
    Thanks for answering the question about he chalk!! Never thought of that.....no, and that doesn't seem fair......I thought the ridgeback was pretty, too.....Our dog trainer had one named JJ, and he was always so bored, demonstrating what had to be taught, etc....that is until Cassie came...he loved Cassie!! Even his owner was laughing at him...he would get so excited when she came to class....he even wet on her back!! I guess he was "marking" his territory....his owner was mortified! HA....back to the topic....I loved the bloodhound and the wolf hound, too.....I also love black and tan coonhounds...don't know why, met one once, and he was soooo friendly.
    Aww that's so cute.

    Oh that's another dog I forgot about, I'm not a fan of those dogs at all but he was downright GORGEOUS!!

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    STUMP the SUSSEX Spaniel just won the 2009 Westminster Dog Show!

    All the dogs looked fabulous, I was rooting for the Giant Schnauzer and Stump was my second favorite in the last line-up. Congratulations STUMP!!

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    Stump is totally adorable!! At the age of 10, he is the oldest dog ever to win Westminster. He was retired for 5 years. He was terribly ill back in 2004 - spent 19 days in the Vet hospital at Texas A&M.

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    CONGRATS STUMP!!! Very nice dog! I was personally rooting for the Brussels as I have always liked Lincoln. I know the handler too. They make a wonderful team. Him nd his wife actually own and breed Aussies.

    Did anyone else see the Scottie pee while going out for BIS? Ya know the handler was super embarrassed!

    As for the two conflict of interest dogs. I think the handlers knew they were to be pardoned. Just to have the dogs in the ring for that short amount of time is a pleasure. I'm glad the judge was honest. I know some judges act like they don't know the handler and use this as leverage. Not at all fair to others in the ring.

    Cali is correct. You are actually not suppose to dye or chalk your dogs. Although, a great deal of people do chalk their dogs. Dying is much more frowned upon. I've even chalked dogs. Mostly legs and feet. In both Sibes and Aussies. You can't cover anything other than minor kennel stains with chalk. Dying can dramatically change your dog.
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    I loved that Cardi, to death... and I was actually on a Telltail waiting list, at one point. She was robbed.



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    I'm always extremely critical of the newly ruined "AKC" toller versus the original package.

    Tyson has good points and bad.

    Good: His body is well proportioned. Tollers should only be as long as they are tall. When they get too long they look like red border collies.

    Bad: His head is too domed. His ears are just not right. His tail is too short. He at least looks 15-20 pounds bigger than he should be. Stop too prominant. Muzzle too short. Coat looks like it was shaved.

    Honestly, if you set me in a room full of AKC tollers and asked me to judge their good and bad points, I'd walk out. The AKC is turning them into red and white golden retrievers.
    "There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452 View Post
    I'm always extremely critical of the newly ruined "AKC" toller versus the original package.

    Tyson has good points and bad.

    Good: His body is well proportioned. Tollers should only be as long as they are tall. When they get too long they look like red border collies.

    Bad: His head is too domed. His ears are just not right. His tail is too short. He at least looks 15-20 pounds bigger than he should be. Stop too prominant. Muzzle too short. Coat looks like it was shaved.

    Honestly, if you set me in a room full of AKC tollers and asked me to judge their good and bad points, I'd walk out. The AKC is turning them into red and white golden retrievers.
    Sure, he's not perfect -- but what dog is? AKC hasn't ruined them that badly. They've only been recognized for 6 years, and IMO, haven't changed that much. In fact, Tyson is a Canadian bred dog, is he not? I think Tyson's a really nice dog for the most part, and most definitely of correct size, too. I don't know where you get that he's too big. His tail doesn't look short to me, either. He'd look a little ridiculous if his muzzle was much longer, IMO. His stop is a little prominant, and sure, his head is a little bit too domed for my liking... but overall, he's a nice dog and definitely deserved to win the breed. And while you're most certainly entitled to your opinion, I think you're a little too critical of the breed. They're still relatively new, and breeders are still striving to produce an ideal Toller. They're not a very uniform breed as of yet, and there are many different "types" still. Spring & Dance for instance, while neither are the prettiest Tollers there ever was, are still good examples of that. The only thing they have in common are that they're Tollers and they're red. Structurally, they're miles apart.

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    bckrazy writes:
    I loved that Cardi, to death... and I was actually on a Telltail waiting list, at one point. She was robbed.
    The Cardi was my favorite too. So much personality. The Pembroke seemed so much more laid back. Loved the contrasting playfulness of the Cardi and I would have snatched him up in nanosecond.


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