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[Grace]

Sorry if this is already a thread somewhere.

What does everyone think of the story of the woman in Whittier, CA, giving birth to octuplets? I'm reading that she already has 6 children between 2 and 7. She has no husband and went through IV(Invitro fertilization)for all the children, including the octuplets.

Opinions please........

You're smack dab in the middle of a topic about that very event. There are opinions flying all over this topic. Please join in - the more the merrier

[Moesha]

You're smack dab in the middle of a topic about that very event. There are opinions flying all over this topic. Please join in - the more the merrier

She had started a new thread about this topic. Karen merged that thread into this one.

[shais_mom]

I think the whole thing is ABSURD. I TOTALLY agree with whoever said she needed counseling instead of fertility drugs.
While I certainly do not think that doctors have the right to tell someone how many children they should have, this woman, who claims she got paid to have the kids should have been stopped.
One of the older children also has autism I believe. While I have nothing against people having more than 1-2 children, (its their right of course) I firmly believe in the concept of only having 2 to replace yourself and spouse, etc. (can't remember what it was called) but those people that have more than 2 children apparently are just taking up my allotment.
This woman is no different than a collector of dogs or cats, she is just choosing to have kids. Why would you want to do that to your body like that? Crazy.
This woman is no different than the local trash I see every week coming into my ER who has 5 kids but 3-5 different fathers. And is on welfare. It just cost her (US) a LOT more to have 14 kids.

[Grace]

I think the whole thing is ABSURD. I TOTALLY agree with whoever said she needed counseling instead of fertility drugs.
While I certainly do not think that doctors have the right to tell someone how many children they should have, this woman, who claims she got paid to have the kids should have been stopped.
One of the older children also has autism I believe. While I have nothing against people having more than 1-2 children, (its their right of course) I firmly believe in the concept of only having 2 to replace yourself and spouse, etc. (can't remember what it was called) but those people that have more than 2 children apparently are just taking up my allotment.
This woman is no different than a collector of dogs or cats, she is just choosing to have kids. Why would you want to do that to your body like that? Crazy.
This woman is no different than the local trash I see every week coming into my ER who has 5 kids but 3-5 different fathers. And is on welfare. It just cost her (US) a LOT more to have 14 kids.

Oh boy, do I agree with you!! And that concept of only replacing ones self - Zero Population Growth.

[sasvermont]

We cannot dictate how many children one wants or bring into this world. Not yet, anyway!

Do I think this woman will be a good mother? Who knows at this point. She will need a team of people to help with taking care of the infants.

I just read (not necessarily true) on the INTERNET news (Goggle) web site, that she has hope in getting $2,000,000 in TV, book deals. I think they should make her payoff her hospital bill straight off, then set up trust funds for the dozen + kids.

Does anyone know what religion she affiliates herself with, if any?

I, too, think she needs a good deal of mental health counseling.

FYI:
Several factors contribute to the development of a multiple pregnancy:

Heredity: A history of multiple births on a woman's side of the family increases her chances of having a multiple pregnancy.

Race: Women of African descent are the most likely to have multiple pregnancies.

Number of prior pregnancies: Having more than one previous pregnancy, especially a multiple pregnancy, increases the chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

Delayed childbearing: Older women who get pregnant are more likely to have multiples.

Infertility treatment: Fertility drugs, which stimulate the ovaries to release multiple eggs, or assisted reproductive technology (ART), which transfers multiple embryos into the womb (such as in vitro fertilization, or IVF), greatly increase a woman's chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

It's the last two factors that have been on the rise in the last couple of decades and are probably responsible for the increase in multiple births.


I guess I would not care much about this if I thought she and her parents could afford to keep these children healthy and alive. I DO resent that she is not paying for the delivery of these children, as far as I know. I heard an early report that the initial cost of each child to be in intensive care for the first few weeks would be at least $300,000 (each). You do the math.

I didn't read all the earlier posts, so please forgive me if I repeated what someone else has already posted.

One more time, I do not agree with her having all these children, but she did. Also, I suspect she medicated to increase the egg fertility, dropping way more egss than would have been implanted if she did the IVF routine. I just cannot imagine any doctor implanting that many embryos.

[Grace]

She had started a new thread about this topic. Karen merged that thread into this one.

I had no idea. Is there notification when that happens?

[Moesha]

I had no idea. Is there notification when that happens?

I don't think so. I only knew it because I had seen her thread and posted a link pointing to this one. Karen let me know that she had deleted my post when she merged D&D's post with this thread. It does look funny if you are reading along and then see her post asking about opinions about the topic being discussed. I just thought I'd clarify why it was there.

[Daisy and Delilah]

Sorry everybody. I didn't notice that the topic was already being covered. Karen PM'd me to let me know that she was merging.
I was only looking for the word "Octuplets" in the title and I missed it.

Anyway......I was reading this story earlier. I went to the website for the Whittier newspaper. I can't believe this woman had 6 children and wanted IV for "just one more child". I can understand that it would be hard to make a decision to abort to reduce the quantity of eggs. What I don't understand, why did a woman with 6 children need more children at all?

I was a single mother so that isn't a question in my mind. I am a huge supporter of single momhood. That's not really the point. However, husband or no husband, she's going to need alot of help.

How does she expect to care for these children? Did she think about who would pay to raise them? Raising 14 children is going to be difficult for her. Her father is willing to take care of them financially with his salary from his job in Iraq. Her mother says she's always been obsessed with having children. Ay yi yi!!

I really don't know what to say about this. It's mind boggling.

[RICHARD]

Sorry everybody. I didn't notice that the topic was already being covered. Karen PM'd me to let me know that she was merging.
I was only looking for the word "Octuplets" in the title and I missed it.

Admit it, You have problems with the alphabet!

I would not have posted the story had not the esteemed senator from the Great Late State of Cah lee fuh Nee Ah, not come out and put her stilleto in her kisser!

[Edwina's Secretary]

Whether she can "afford" them or not, whether she has a husband or not are irrelevant facts to me.

The planet cannot afford them.

People bitch and moan about the government interferring in our lives. If we continue to do stupid things we get laws to try and control our behavior. Someone has to if we cannot control ourselves.

I consider anyone giving birth to so many children no better than a backyard breeder or someone who does not spay or neuter pets.

Irresponsible! I cannot understand why there are television shows that glorify people who have lots of children. (Or so I have heard...)

[Daisy and Delilah]

Admit it, You have problems with the alphabet!

I would not have posted the story had not the esteemed senator from the Great Late State of Cah lee fuh Nee Ah, not come out and put her stilleto in her kisser!

GUILTY as charged

ES: Very well said. TLC is promoting everything these days. It really annoys me to see so many ads for shows that are that ridiculous.

[JenBKR]

Ya know, I don't necessarily think that we should have a 'limit' to the amount of kids people have, but honestly sometimes I think that people should have to take some kind of test before they are allowed to have kids. Between this loon, and all of the other threads in the doghouse right now about people killing their kids.....ugh

[Edwina's Secretary]

Ya know, I don't necessarily think that we should have a 'limit' to the amount of kids people have, but honestly sometimes I think that people should have to take some kind of test before they are allowed to have kids. Between this loon, and all of the other threads in the doghouse right now about people killing their kids.....ugh

I don't disagree - have long been an advocate if we require a license to drive a car why not to have kids. The problem is...who would write the test?

[pomtzu]

I don't disagree - have long been an advocate if we require a license to drive a car why not to have kids. The problem is...who would write the test?

Maybe Richard and Puckstop???

[Puckstop31]

Maybe Richard and Puckstop???

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Not in a million years. In my world, the book of laws would be about 3 pages long, double spaced.

I mean God summed it up on two stone tablets. LOL