Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

[Hellow]

I can understand people /adopting/ or /fostering/ that many kids - not giving birth to that many yourself.

[RICHARD]

She had 6 kids, two are twins.


I just cannot believe it.

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Rose,
If she has more kids she belongs in a museum.

[Cataholic]

I think it is very easy, in the warm comfort of our own homes, to second guess this woman. There are so many things that go into this, and as Catty said, that primale (sic) urge to bear children (that not everyone might have) is strong. I would imagine, but, do not know, that her plan wasn't to have 8 infants. But, once one conceives, how does one bear the thought of determining just who shall live? I couldn't do it.

The nature of the fertility drug/assistance path is so expensive. Implanting two eggs, finding a level of hormone that would only encourage an extra egg or two, isn't as easy as it seems. With the expense of the procedure, many DO opt to over do it, in order to secure one 'for sure' fetus, while minimizing expense.

There are many in our country that receive government assistance of some kind. There are people that routinely go on unemployment cause the nature of their job is seasonal. There are people that go on disibility, WC, that get assistance..that is thier 'right'. The big corporate sponsors that want to donate? Who cares, that is private money.

As to Jon and Kate, plus 8, while I think she could do with some serious counseling for passive/aggressive behaviour, OCD and general manners, they seem to support themselves without public assistance.

[lvpets2002]

Richard at least Jon & Kate only have eight kids.. You forgot about the Dugger Family that just had their 18th child.. Its horibble how the media supports these familys.. You do know that this women that just had the eight babies does not even know who or where the father is.. These fertlized eggs she had emplanted in her.. I just dont get it due to she had 6 kids at home already.. I guess its how bad do you want to be in the media..

She had 6 kids, two are twins.


I just cannot believe it.

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Rose,
If she has more kids she belongs in a museum.

[Catty1]

Like Cataholic said, she refused embryo reduction (nice phrase, huh?). I would think normally that not all eight would survive, so letting 'Nature take its course' or 'God decide' was the plan.


http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...ion__Roundup__

US octuplet mum already had six - refused embryo reduction (Roundup)
Health News

Jan 30, 2009, 14:48 GMT

Los Angeles - The mother of octuplets born Monday in California already had six children under the age of seven, but declined to abort some of the eight foetuses, her mother said in a Los Angeles Times interview Friday.

The mother has not been officially named. But grandmother Angela Suleman said the woman's refusal to undergo a so-called reduction was taken on moral grounds. 'What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed,' Suleman said. 'That is a very painful thing.'

Suleman acknowledged that raising 14 children would be difficult, especially since the father is due to return to Iraq shortly where he serves as a military contractor.

The mother, aged 33, was offered a selective abortion, Dr Harold Henry at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Centre said. The woman had consulted the doctors in her 12th week of pregnancy.

News that the mother already had six young children before giving birth to the octuplets is likely to increase the controversy surrounding the use of fertility treatments, especially the implanting of multiple embryos which can lead to high risk pregnancies and health problems for the babies, who are usually born prematurely.

'When we see something like this in the general fertility world, it gives us the heebie-jeebies,' Michael Tucker, a clinical embryologist in Atlanta and a leading researcher in infertility treatment, told the newspaper. Tucker added that in his opinion, 'if a medical practitioner had anything to do with it, there's some degree of inappropriate medical therapy there.'

The six boys and two girls were delivered within five minutes of each other by Caesarean section Monday morning. The delivery surprised doctors who had been expecting 'only' seven babies.

Two of the newborns who had initially been put on ventilators, were now breathing on their own.

The mother is the second person ever to have delivered a set of living octuplets. The last octuplets known to have survived birth were born in Houston in 1998. One of the babies died one week later.

On Wednesday, the mother could see her babies for the first time in their incubators at the intensive care ward. According to People magazine, she was not allowed to hold her babies yet, but watched them sleeping.

The babies weighed in at between 880 grams and 1.47 kilograms each. All eight will spend about two months in an incubator, the hospital said, but the mother, who plans to breastfeed all her children, will be able to leave hospital in one week.

[Grace]

Her other children's ages are 7, 6, 5, 3 and 2 year old twins. I doubt there was ever any question of her not being able to have a child.

IMVHO this woman needed psychiatric care instead of embryo implantation.

[lvpets2002]

Aint that the Damn Truth.. LOL

Her other children's ages are 7, 6, 5, 3 and 2 year old twins. I doubt there was ever any question of her not being able to have a child.

IMVHO this woman needed psychiatric care instead of embryo implantation.

[RICHARD]

Let's review,

A single mom? 14 kids?

HMMMM!

I don't think that J and K + 8 live off of his salary alone. My dad raised six as a 'laborer' and my mom working part time, then full time when we were old enough.


J+K+8 'live' off of their program, the kindness of others and corporate 'sponsors'.

I happened by a spot when the kids had a birhday-even I have a curiosity about that trainwreck- and the mom was unpacking some shirts that were sent by a 'fan'. They also had some huge benefactors when they were first born.

As for the vacations?

Dizzyland and the producers of the program look for opportunities to showcase
the family out in public. I watched the Dizzyland episode and had to laugh about the accomodations and all the 'perks'.

Unless I win the lottery, I would never even dream of going and spending a week there, let alone with 8 kids. It's all donated thru the public relations offices of DL and the DISC Channel. The foot forward -or 20 feet - isthey want to portray is the Magic Kingdom is great place to take a litter of children for fun and games.

"LooK! IF John and Kate do it! We can with our 3-1-4-5-7-? kids!

Think of it on real terms.

Hotel SUITE! for 5 days? Tickets to the park? 200 dollars for the adults, 240 for the kids, and the prices are guesstimates? Food and god knows what else!

We have a Six Flags up the road- I was given a comp ticket when they were 10 bucks. NOw?

That may be a burger, coke and fries after I pay 45 to get in.

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Embryo Reduction?

Every facet of the world has their 'non offensive terminology'.

Some kids took grandma's car, got pulled over and ran from the cops.
The 14 y.o. that was driving got the car up to 90 and crashed it. The cops sugar coat the crash with termiology, abbreviations and other PR drivel because they don't want to acknowledge that they chased a car full of kids to death- If I remember one was 11 and another was 15?