Update on the Koi

[NicoleLJ]

WOW thanks for the kick in the but when all I am doing is teying my best to help these fish. It is not like I live in an area where Koi are popular to my knowlege. THis was my first time seeing them. I could give them back to the pet store but then how would they end up. At least I am trying. SO stop insulting. Stop telling me over and over agian that the tanks are to small and tell me what I can do with what I have untill I can improve things for them.

[Fuzzybuns]

I haven't told you over and over?? This is the first time I've seen anything about Koi here. I'm pretty sure I've never talked to you at all.

I apologize for whatever you think my intention was in replying to you, all I was doing was watching out for the welfare of the fish.

[NicoleLJ]

I apologize but I have been hearing the same thing over and over and over and over agian and it is driving me insaine. No one is giving me solutions that I can work with. All I get is the tanks are too small, the fish will die, give them away, build a pond(in the middle of -30 winter)Only one person on one forum gave me advice that I could do. Empty the tank 75% and add in new water, reduce the amount I feed them(I was over feeding them) and so on. All I got was negative. I was getting so tired of it. I was asking for help noit negativity. Why is it that everytime someone wants help people give negeativity. I am learning and trying here and can only do so much. Agian I apologize for snapping.

[king2005]

All I get is the tanks are too small, the fish will die, give them away, build a pond(in the middle of -30 winter)

You can keep goldfish in -30C. Also in this area it doesn't hit or stay at -30C often/long. Where I'm from it was an avg of -30C & for 1-2 months it was -40C with FEET of snow & the goldfish always lived just fine. There was a heater in the pond & they were fed every 2nd day. It was awesome being bundled up & feeding the goldfish. Not so much when they splashed water.. that was COLD after a few seconds!

Only one person on one forum gave me advice that I could do. Empty the tank 75% and add in new water, reduce the amount I feed them(I was over feeding them) and so on.

75%??!! Whoever told you that needs a swift kick in the pants!! Never change more then 25% of your tank water or all the good bacteria can die, or it wont be able to reproduce fast enough to help the fish out.. So doing 75% water changes is terribly unhealthy for all fish (pond or tank).

When doing water changes its important to use a chemical to remove chlorine from the tap water, as chlorine will burn the fish & weaken/kill the good bacteria.

Pellet food is better then flakes.. Flakes sink so fast that they create waste faster.. pellets float & give the fish enough time to eat it.. This goes for all fishies.

koi & comets are not tank fish, ever. And whats sold as a Common Pleco, needs a min of 50gallons, but is happier in +75gallons. Common Plecos grow to about +12inches long.

[Husky_mom]

I think you are doing great... keeping them ok in what you have...

if I recall this fish are the landlords... so the tanks were already there... and I´m sure she´ll do what´s needed for them to be better... gettign a pond or bigger tank...

just like you do with any new to you pet... you research and get help form people more familair with them, in this case Koi, and you learn and improve for their better...

no need for insults or blames.. we all start not knowing and it´s good to get help... maybe the wordings got a lil harsh.. but I know it was an opinion and suggestion in order to keep the fish and people happy...

[Fuzzybuns]

My only worry was the welfare of the fish, I had no idea that you were working with what you have or that they belong to somebody else.

It is cruel to keep them in the tank, the ammonia alone will kill them as there is no possible way to keep up with it. That's like 2 water changes a week with as many fish are in there, unless you have one heck of a filter. Space per fish is another issue, not yet, but it will be. I was simply saying that a pond cannot be an option when they get larger, your tank would have to be immense.

[Taz_Zoee]

I was simply saying that a pond cannot be an option when they get larger, your tank would have to be immense.

I know NOTHING about fish. But I did have a question. So are you saying that the fish must be a certain size before you can put them in a pond? And that they will not get to that size in the tanks they are currently in?

[Fuzzybuns]

Not so much a certain size, but while they're small, as long as she has an awesome filter, they can stay in the tank for now. They do need more room, though. A 10 with 3 koi and a 55 with 8 koi isn't enough room for any of them, as they grow pretty quick.

If a large fish stays small due to it's living arrangements, you're actually stunting it's growth. Of course nobody wants to do that...

Hope I explained welll enough.

[Taz_Zoee]

Got it.
Well, like Nicole said, she's still learning about these guys. It was part of her moving into her new place that she take care of them. So she also needs to communicate with the owners before doing anything, I'm sure.

[NicoleLJ]

There are only 4 in the 55g. Just thought I should clear that up.

[shepgirl]

WOW thanks for the kick in the but when all I am doing is teying my best to help these fish. It is not like I live in an area where Koi are popular to my knowlege. THis was my first time seeing them. I could give them back to the pet store but then how would they end up. At least I am trying. SO stop insulting. Stop telling me over and over agian that the tanks are to small and tell me what I can do with what I have untill I can improve things for them.

How do you give them back to a pet store when they are supposed to belong to the landlord...ooops!

[NicoleLJ]

How do you give them back to a pet store when they are supposed to belong to the landlord...ooops!

Because if you had been reading along she went and bought a bigger tank and took me with her and had me help her pick out a couple of other Koi. SO the OOOOPPPPssssss is on you. Duhhh start keeping up with the threads. Instead of trying to find ways to attack in them.

[Catty1]

Good old Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi_fish

Sorry to say that the koi is actually a carp...

[blue]

What size filters are you running on the tanks?

[Vela]

I don't think anyone was trying to really be negative Nicole, they are just telling you the truth. They are also correct. I used to have a lot of fish and Koi are just not good tank fish. Very difficult to keep healthy and alive, and those tanks aren't big enough for them. I realize you are doing your best with what you have, but the truth is still the truth, even if it sucks. Nobody here is trying to hurt you for the most part, as far as I can tell, but it's still correct information, even if it's not what you might wish to hear. Your fish or the landlady's fish doesn't really matter, just keep up with the water changes and try not to overfeed, but it's not a situation where they will thrive and stay healthy long term. Good luck with them, I hope it works out.