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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    You lose on this one!!! I was raised in a family that never went to church. We never event talked about god. I became a Christian because after reading the Bible cover to cover several times I came to love Jesus very much. After 9/11, I went on a serious search. I realized I did believe in God, a loving one at that. I also realized I couldn't accept a religion for myself that Jesus wasn't part of. What other chose to believe it up to them. What I believe is not an "accident of birth".

    One thing everyone forgets; just as there is good in the world: there is evil.
    When man turned against god in the garden, that gave evil free rein in the earth. That evil includes sickness and death to innocents and well as non-innocents.

    Whether you believe in god or not, there is a struggle going on between good and evil. Sadly, evil seems to be winning these days.
    There are exceptions but really I do believe this is true in most cases. Of course there are missionaries in other countries.
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    Iran is not an Arab state, however they are a key backer of Hamas through weapons supplies and information warfare support, as is Syria (an Arab state).

    I wonder how many photoshopped pics the blogs are going to uncover from this go-round? I suppose the media are going to have to be more careful this time around with the propoganda they choose to purvey.

    The Palestinians were thrown out of Jordan for attempting a coup, and if they weren't a useful foil against Israel they would get nowhere near the support they do from the Muslim world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    You lose on this one!!!
    Actually, no, I don't.

    You may not have grown up in a practicing Christian household, but you grew up in a Christian country. When you decided to start actively practicing a religion, you reached for the Bible, the book of Christians. You didn't go to the library and check out the Qu'an or the Torah and read them cover to cover several times as well, before deciding to start practicing Christianity. I'd bet again, you didn't research the Bahá'í faith, Gnosticism or Jainism.

    I'm not saying this in and of itself is wrong. It's human nature. We gravitate towards what we know. If I want to buy a new car, I pick from the choices that I am familar with, that my friends and family own, and are readily available in my area. I choose between a Chevy and a Toyota ... I don't even think about a Tata, a Izmash or a Yulon. It's the same with religion ... when basically non-religious people decide to become religious, they almost always choose the religion of their family, friends or country. Not always, there are exceptions ... that's why I did not say "100%" in my original post. But it's incredibly rare that an American decides to start practicing Kharijite, Sikhism, or iAyyavazhi nstead of Christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    Actually, no, I don't.

    You may not have grown up in a practicing Christian household, but you grew up in a Christian country. When you decided to start actively practicing a religion, you reached for the Bible, the book of Christians. You didn't go to the library and check out the Qu'an or the Torah and read them cover to cover several times as well, before deciding to start practicing Christianity. I'd bet again, you didn't research the Bahá'í faith, Gnosticism or Jainism.

    I'm not saying this in and of itself is wrong. It's human nature. We gravitate towards what we know. If I want to buy a new car, I pick from the choices that I am familar with, that my friends and family own, and are readily available in my area. I choose between a Chevy and a Toyota ... I don't even think about a Tata, a Izmash or a Yulon. It's the same with religion ... when basically non-religious people decide to become religious, they almost always choose the religion of their family, friends or country. Not always, there are exceptions ... that's why I did not say "100%" in my original post. But it's incredibly rare that an American decides to start practicing Kharijite, Sikhism, or iAyyavazhi nstead of Christianity.
    Well, the Torah is part of the Christian Bible so I did read that one several times. Since I had never ever even heard of the others I couldn't research them. We had no computer Google access in those days. Even the libraries were limited as to what religious books were offered.
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