If the shoe fits?

[lizbud]

Bush may have dodged the thrown shoe, but his press secretary was
not so lucky. She has a black eye from the ruckus. She looks terrible.
What was she doing there anyway?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

[sparks19]

OOOOOH ouch... THAT looks really painful. Poor lady

[Edwina's Secretary]

What I find…well amusing I suppose…is you want the maximum stretch of interpretation of the Second Amendment (guns) but want to limit the interpretation of the First Amendment (free speech).

Blagojevich is a constitutionally elected official. He is also an idiot. You suggest it is wrong to say that. I disagree.

George Bush is an elected official who has squandered the good reputation of the United States, lied to the people of the country and the world and sacrificed over 4,000 Americans to his lies.

I do not believe he or any other elected official should be protected from criticism.

And I not believe criticism of him or Clinton or Obama when he gets into office - or Pierce or Harding or any other man who sat in the oval office shows disrespect for the position of president or for the constitution.

Otherwise the Founding Fathers would have written the first amendment to say…”freedom of speech except when criticizing government officials.”

Thankfully, they did not.

[smokey the elder]

What's interesting is how an insult is in the eye of the beholder. To the Iraqi Muslim, that was the worst possible insult, yet Bush and others have made somewhat light of it. I feel bad for the press person who got hit by the shoe. I'm surprised the Secret Service gave the man the opportunity to even throw the second one!

[Lady's Human]

Calling someone an idiot isn't criticism.

It's an insult.

Criticism woud be pointing out the percieved faults without being insulting.

Nowhere did I suggest limiting free speech, quite the opposite, I'm using my right of free speech to speak out against insults that add absolutely nothing to an adult discussion.

As an aside, I have no desire to see a maximum stretch on the second amendment, but merely want the government to allow law-abiding citizens to exercise their rights enumerated under the Constitution with a minimum of governmental interference.

[RICHARD]

What's interesting is how an insult is in the eye of the beholder. To the Iraqi Muslim, that was the worst possible insult, yet Bush and others have made somewhat light of it. I feel bad for the press person who got hit by the shoe. I'm surprised the Secret Service gave the man the opportunity to even throw the second one!

Remember the Shoe Bomber?

We really didn't care about shoes until then!

Now, we could have made a HUGE deal about it, but the shoes didn't connect.
We already went to war over something far more sinister than a pair of 10s.

Look again and see had this happened in Germany? Italy, Russian, Australia, Canada? Spain?

There most certainly would have been a different look at the incident, What if the "shoe bomber" hit the Iraqi diplomat?

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What I was trying to get across was the stupidity of the incident, the deftness that our president has and how he shrugged it off and didn't make a huge deal out of it.


One thing I find IMMENSELY amusing is the idea that you can take a coin issued by the US Mint paint anything on it, and sell it as a 'commemerative'
piece to be patently ridiculous.

The coin was struck with another intent and to trivialize it by painting it, sell it for 20-40 times it's original value strikes me as a scam. The people who deal in stuff like that usually are not upstanding citizens, just people looking to make a buck!

[Lady's Human]

If one calls a person an idiot, one is simply calling that person an idiot.

If one calls an elected official an idiot, you are by extension calling those who voted for the individual in question idiots at best.

I fail to see why you are so huffy about a simple request to keep political discourse above the schoolyard level. Is it because you are in fact incapable of doing so yourself?

[sparks19]

and as always this thread comes down to bickering about a few words or misspellings

[Edwina's Secretary]

If one calls a person an idiot, one is simply calling that person an idiot.

If one calls an elected official an idiot, you are by extension calling those who voted for the individual in question idiots at best.

I fail to see why you are so huffy about a simple request to keep political discourse above the schoolyard level. Is it because you are in fact incapable of doing so yourself?

What I am "huffy about" is your inability to admit your bias. Just tell me why it doesn't bother you when RICHARD calls Nancy Pelosi a moron but it bothers you that Donna calls Bush an idiot.

Gosh...when you look at it like that it becomes rather obvious, doesn't it?

But to take your logic (or illogic) to the next step...if I call Blagojevich a crook, am I calling everyone who voted for him a crook?

If I call Randy Cunningham a theft, am I calling the people who voted for him thieves?

If I call Larry Craig a lying closet homosexual, am I calling the people who voted for him that?

Of course not. That would be silly.

Getting elected does not protect people from the same label you feel comfortable putting on fellow posters.

Does the schoolyard equal the barnyard? And does calling fellow poster count as schoolyard behavior -- or just barnyard?