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    The difference is Palin asked Stevens to step down before his trail was concluded, Barack is acting like nothing happened.
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    Just how many different people can "misspeak" the same way about the same events?


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    Where exactly is Tammany, New York?

    [WHITEPOST]You must mean Tammany Hall in NYC.[/WHITEPOST]
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    Blagojevich's Nov. 5 victory can be encapsulated as follows: A monstrous vote in Chicago, coupled with a surprising vote Downstate, equals a comfortable win. The Democrat won big in his Chicago base, and Ryan didn't checkmate him in his Collar County base or Downstate. Statewide, Blagojevich beat Ryan by a surprisingly narrow 52-48 percent margin. In fact, Blagojevich's total vote of 1,820,059 was 225,868 more than Democrat Glenn Poshard's 1998 vote of 1,594,191, and Jim Ryan's total of 1,584,684 was 129,410 less than George Ryan's 1998 vote of 1,714,094. Ryan triumphed by 119,903 votes in 1998. That means that the $23 million raised and spent by Blagojevich, when coupled with George Ryan's perceived culpability in the licenses-for-bribes scandal, moved a grand total of 350,000 votes. But victory, as they say, has a thousand mothers, and nobody really cares from whence it comes.
    So Chitown had no say in swaying the election then? Source.
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    That is so sweet ES. Thank you for taking me off your "iggy" list.

    I see your point and it is valid. But are you really trying to say that Alaska politics is the same as Illinois politics? Or that Barack Obama and/or his staff (Rahm Immanuel) REALLY had no knowledge of the process of finding his replacement in the Sentate?

    Come on ES... You can't be THAT in the tank for them, can you?

    Oh and I did not say Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the country, the FBI did.
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    So Chitown had no say in swaying the election then? Source.
    Wrong election Blue.

    I was surprised Blagojevich was elected the first time and shocked when he was reelected.

    That is not the point.

    Just looking for some basic logic here. Silly me.

    Richard Nixon was a politician. From the state of California. He was a crook.

    Ronald Reagan was a politician. From the state of California. Does that mean he was a crook?

    That would be illogical and well...silly.

    It appears that you guys are allowing your hatred of an administration that hasn't even started yet to cloud your judgement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Wrong election Blue.

    I was surprised Blagojevich was elected the first time and shocked when he was reelected.

    That is not the point.
    You could have made a point by posting or linking stats from the right election.

    Just looking for some basic logic here. Silly me.

    Richard Nixon was a politician. From the state of California. He was a crook.

    Ronald Reagan was a politician. From the state of California. Does that mean he was a crook?

    That would be illogical and well...silly.

    It appears that you guys are allowing your hatred of an administration that hasn't even started yet to cloud your judgement!
    Speaking for myself, I am hoping and praying I am been wrong about Mr Obama. Am I holding my breath? No, I can still hope to be suprised.

    Mr Obama and his transition team would have served his reputation by doing something other then taking multiple stands on the IL govs criminal actions.
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    Dear Governor Rauner: I get that the state budget is a mess. I heard you say it got that way because of your predecessor. However, there are some problems now that you can make serious points with Illinoisans by getting right. A lot of low-income families utilize subsidies for child care. I agree that it would be great if this weren't necessary, but the problem at the moment is that the state has run out of funds to pay for these services. Also, there is an imminent shortfall with respect to the department of human services - which provides services to people with serious mental illnesses and developmental disabilities. Again - although it would be lovely if the need for these services didn't exist, this is life and there are individuals and families depending on this kind of support. So please, get with the state legislature and figure out a way to keep the funds flowing for now. As the economy improves, you can look at ways to make the state budget work better. Workin' folks in Illinois utilize these services. You can make a favorable impression with the average Joe Lincoln by quickly working this out.
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    And another Illinois politician down in flames:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...ns-116153.html

    Can you guys find anyone honest to elect?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Just how many different people can "misspeak" the same way about the same events?


    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ons-arise.html

    I give up...how many?

    There are no allegations that President-elect Obama or anyone close to him had anything to do with any of the crimes Gov. Blagojevich is accused of having committed.

    In fact, there are indications that Mr. Obama and his team refused to go along with the "pay to play" way Blagojevich is accused of operating, offering only "gratitude" if the governor appointed his friend Valerie Jarrett to take his U.S. Senate seat, much to the governor's chagrin.

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    blue, are you reporting this event the way you are to disclose information, or to confirm a prejudice?

    I'm just glad you didn't major in Journalism.
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    "There are no allegations that President-elect Obama or anyone close to him had anything to do with any of the crimes Gov. Blagojevich is accused of having committed.

    In fact, there are indications that Mr. Obama and his team refused to go along with the "pay to play" way Blagojevich is accused of operating, offering only "gratitude" if the governor appointed his friend Valerie Jarrett to take his U.S. Senate seat, much to the governor's chagrin. "
    Didn't Obama say yesterday that he had NO contact with Blago about this?

    Which is it? Did he refuse to play along or did he not know? if he did not know anything, how is that possible? Blago is supposedly on tape calling Obama a "MFer" for not being willing to pay. How could Obama not be willing to pay if he had no knowledge of it?


    But then again, I realize this is a exercise in futility... So I guess we just add Blago to the list of people Obama knows who are ending up in jail or on the hot seat...

    Rev. Wright

    Tony Rezko

    Rod Blagojevich

    William Ayers


    Yeah... "Change"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    I'm just glad you didn't major in Journalism.

    Well, I bet ANY of us who did not major in Journalism could do a better job of getting the TRUTH out there than the people who did. Also, remember that education and wisdom are vastly different things.
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    I mentioned that only because I detected - and have before - a definite bias in blue's comments when it comes to Obama.

    Okay - he doesn't like the guy, didn't vote for him, whatever - fine. But that also means that any news that runs counter to his 'proof' is not going to be mentioned.

    I have known several people that wound up in jail. So? (yes, I am not running for public office, but guilt by association is ridiculous at any level).

    Journalists are not unbiased either, but they are trained to TRY to be. (that can change depending on the slant of the editor/manager of the venue one works for).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    I have known several people that wound up in jail. So? (yes, I am not running for public office, but guilt by association is ridiculous at any level).
    Guilt by association? No. Suspicion by association? You bet.


    Would you not agree the following quote is pretty accurate?

    "Show me your friends and I will show you your future."
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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