Firearms. Yea or Nay?

[Lady's Human]

Sara, I haven't run out of arguments, just patience and desire to spar with your continuous drumbeat of nanny-state BS.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Well Joe, I don't understand why you have taken offense this time. You and your fellow travelers have repeatedly expressed the need for guns for protection. So I accept that. There is something from which you feel the need for protection. There is something you fear. Some fear for which you must be prepared.

I cannot imagine why you think I classify fear as a mental illness. That is YOUR definition...certainly not mine. Fear is the natural response when threatened. Why the defensiveness?

And just what is a nanny state anyway?

[blue]

And just what is a nanny state anyway?

Change we can believe in, link.

[Lady's Human]

Be prepared...........

not be prepared to call the police, not be prepared to call animal control, be prepared to handle situations without government intervention.

Even if you did call, they're so far away you're not going to get anyone to actually respond for at least 20 minutes (which is how long it takes to get out to where we live from the nearest Dunkin Donuts). If you call animal control to deal with the numerous 'yotes we have in the area, all they ask is "don't you have a rifle?"

You keep a fire extinguisher in the kitchen.....I keep a gun in a well placed spot in the house where I can get to it if need be. Fear has nothing to do with it.

[RICHARD]

People who fear shooting off a gun have plenty to be afraid of.

They have never learned how to keep from shooting off their traps.

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The people that want to keep you from owning a gun are the same people who want our police and military armed.

LOL, Never trust a man without "Protection".

[Randi]

If the reason you have a gun is to protect yourself, then I think it’s pretty far out. Why not get a pepper spray?

When John and I had some agressive neigbors (HA types) who threatened us, a girl we knew in Texas offered to send us a pepper spray, and we asked a police woman who was married to my cousin about using it, should they try to break in. She said if we did, we would be in big trouble as they are illegal here. She suggested to use a hairspray.

In any case, I believe that violence will only lead to more violence - and I honestly can’t see the reason for ordinary people to own a gun.

Just think about it.... if NO ONE had a gun, the problem would not exist.

[Puckstop31]

Randi...

Violence is a human condition. The tool people use to harm one another is not relevant. If NO one had a gun, this thread would be about banning swords, or knives, or baseball bats...

Like it or not, there are evil people in this world. I believe that to be truly free, a person should be able to protect themselves from that evil. It's not about fear... Its about freedom.

[RICHARD]

She suggested to use a hairspray.

And a match, for some reason I love to see that flame thrower effect. IT makes me giggle and laugh like a fool-


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I hope this still applies to this thread.

I had some of the MOST KICK ARSE BACON THIS WEEKEND. I cooked up a whole package, put most of it in a container and have snacked on it for a few days. I am not a HUGE bacon fan, the smell of it in an enclosed house early in the morning makes me gag........But, I just had to have some...

Maybe I am pregnant.

[blue]

Well Joe, I don't understand why you have taken offense this time. You and your fellow travelers have repeatedly expressed the need for guns for protection. So I accept that. There is something from which you feel the need for protection. There is something you fear. Some fear for which you must be prepared.

I cant speak for Joe, Tom, Dick, or Harry.

Would you go out into bear country when the salmon are spawning and the boars are looking for a mate? Brown bears are smart, Ive heard stories of them coming into an area after bear spray has been used. They will circle around and come from up wind, or is it down wind. I have had bears in camp less then 20' from my tent.

Im not Timmothy Treadwell, and Im not going to wind up like him. Im also not going to stop going out into bear country.

People in Anchorage and Eagle River jog carrying handguns, and not because they fear being mugged.

The area I live in now is for the most part safer then the area of Anchorage I last lived in. In Anchorage it was easier to chase off the hookers and get the Hells Angel's to deal with the drug dealers. The Mat Su Borough, where I live now is also the meth capital of Alaska and it is an area larger then some states. If I didnt have the dogs Ild probably own more guns. Dogs are a bigger deterent for break ins then firearms.

Puck has pointed out in this thread and his own that the 2nd Amendment protects the rest of our Rights.

Somebody famous said,

People should not be afraid of their Government, Government should be afraid of the People.

Ill add to that with,

Government should rely on the People, People should not rely on Government.

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Bearing arms.

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Gun sales soaring.

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[lizbud]

Good picture of Obama. but really you should give credit to the NRA.
They love to scare folks into buying more guns by spreading fear. They
laugh all the way to the bank.

[Cincy'sMom]

Not to take the thread a different direction, but how 'bout a gun as a medical device....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16207

[blue]

Good picture of Obama. but really you should give credit to the NRA.
They love to scare folks into buying more guns by spreading fear. They
laugh all the way to the bank.

Like the media would allow any poor picture of Barry to be published.

As LH pointed out the NRA dosent profit from gun sales.

The NRA, Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership, and Gun Owners of America are profiting from a surge in their memberships because of the news of the next AWB, the talk of higher taxes on ammo, and that first time gun buyers are up 30% to 300% depending on the part of the country reporting.

Very few gun stores are not jacking up their prices due to demand. Impactguns is out of stock on many of the firearms that will fall under the possible coming AWB, they still have the exotics, NFA weapons, and weapons that are simmilar to but not subjected to the last AWB.

If the talk of the new AWB does come to pass, and I see no reason it wont, it still wont affect weapons that fall under the National Firearms Act; ie machine guns, silencers/suppresors, short barrel rifles and all other weapons will all still be legal and taxable. It wont protect you from people with illegal or controlled weapons that are in their possesion. It wont protect you from people who are carrying illegally. Many citizens, maybe not you and yours, will be in more danger because legal firearms will be taken off the streets and out of homes.