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    OMG Katie! I'm just now seeing this so I'm sitting here going through all the emotions. I'm so sorry this happened and shame on your husband for being a jerk last night but at least he realizes now. It's not your fault, it was an accident - remember that!

    I'll be thinking about poor Andy and you today and keeping you both in my prayers. Hang in there little guy.

    From Decker with Love

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    OMG, I just saw this. Prayers coming strong that Andy will pull through. There is no room for guilt. Please, these things are accidents, and you can only look forward. I am so sorry your husband is being so difficult. At a time like this, it is the last thing you need.

    Pat1066, I am so very sorry to read this happened to you to. I know your heart must still bear the wounds, and to come forward and offer your story now, to help Katie, is really so remarkable.

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    Poor little baby. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for him.

    He'll be ok.

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    Katie, I'm glad things look better for Andy; we'll keep praying for him, and by all means get the extra tests/Xrays done. Don't worry, we will all pitch in for you. I would rather you have peace of mind than to have to worry about Andy any more than you have. You have to be a wreck and stress isn't good for you.

    To pat1066...I can't imagine the grief and horror you went through. I never told anyone else about Archy, either, and I still feel guilty to this day. Just remember he is in a better place now, happily playing at the Bridge. My heart goes out to you, too................
    Loving meowmie to Archy & Binky (RIP my sweet boy 10/13/10)

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    Katie, here are some stats I came across on Google - I went to more than one site - and it shows a normal range of heartbeat and temp for a cat to give you an idea of where Andy is at.

    http://www.petplace.com/cats/what-is...ats/page1.aspx

    Body Temperature

    Body temperature in animals is taken rectally. The normal body temperature for a cat is 100 to 102.5 degrees Fahrenheit. If your pet has a temperature less than 99 or over 104, contact your veterinarian immediately.

    Heart Rate

    The heartbeat can be felt on the left side of the chest at the area where a raised elbow will touch the chest. Your pet should be calm and quiet. Place your hand over this area of the chest and feel for a heartbeat. You can also use a stethoscope if you have one. Count the number of heartbeats for 15 seconds and multiply that number by 4.

    If you cannot determine your pet's heartbeat, you can try to determine the pulse rate. The easiest pulse to feel is the pulse associated with the femoral artery. This artery is best felt inside the back leg in the groin area. Place your first two fingers up high on the inside of your pet's thigh. Slowly feel the area until you can detect a pulse. This method may take some practice and you may want to ask your veterinarian for guidance during a routine exam.

    Cats typically have heart rates between 160 to 220 beats per minute. If your pet has a heart rate outside the normal range, contact your veterinarian immediately.


    http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/dise...P_catfacts.htm

    3. Heart Rate
    120-140 beats per minute

    When stressed, heart rates will increase. This will normalize as the cat calms down in healthy animals. Cats that suffer from heart conditions (cardiomyopathy) or diseases such as hyperthyroidism will have increased heart rates -- over 200 beats per minute in some cases.
    (This rate seems low to me, but oh well!)

    And here is a link where the rates are disputed. Just average it out, and your vet is the best expert as he knows Andy!



    http://cats.about.com/b/2004/10/07/t...about-cats.htm

    Comments

    November 4, 2007 at 5:40 pm
    (1) Mark says:

    http://www.missionmedvet.com/faqs/ir...heart_beat.htm
    says that the normal cat heartbeat is 160-240, not 110-140 as you say.
    November 5, 2007 at 10:05 am
    (2) Franny Syufy says:

    Thanks for your input, Mark. I guess it depends on the expert of your choice. Drs. Foster & Smith say 110-140. Saundra Sample, D.V.M. says 140-160. Dr. Mike Richards says the normal pulse rate is 110-130, with a MAXIMUM heart rate of 240. So you can see, even the experts disagree.


    BTW Katie - if you need to skip a day or two of school when Andy gets home, just email this pic to your instructors:

    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    Oh Katie, what a horrible accident to have happened. No matter how many people mention that "IT ISN'T YOUR FAULT", you will still blame yourself. I'm happy that he is home with you even if it's just for a night. I know this is what you both need at the moment and that he ate a little bit.
    Big time prayers on the way for precious Andy and {{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}} for you. Just think if you had decided to go outside or to the store, the outcome would have been tragic. BUT, thankfully you were home and saved him from a certain death.
    Years ago, when I went into the fridge to get a drink, I didn't notice when I closed the door that Mooky had jumped into it. About 5 minutes later, the hubby went to get something out of the fridge and out popped Mooky. Thankfully he was okay, but I dreaded the thought of how long he would have been in there if it wasn't for the hubby opening the fridge up.
    Another time, my sweet Katie girl, got closed in my sons closet in the morning and was closed in there for the whole day while everyone was at work. When my son came home, he could hear something in the closet so opened it up and out came Katie giving him heck like you wouldn't believe.
    It's unfortunate that these things happen, but they are "ACCIDENTS", that can happen to the best of us. So please dear sweet girl, do not beat yourself up over this, okay.

    R.I.P. my Precious Katie, Katie Pretty Lady.
    Oct. 1991 - Oct. 9, 2005
    R.I.P. my Beloved Wild Hair Wee Willy Winky
    April 8, 2005 - June 19, 2009
    R.I.P. my best friend Buddy.
    Sept. 1993 - Feb. 04, 2010
    R.I.P. my handsome Mooky.
    July 24, 2002 - April 1, 2010

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