The Obama Campaign's 3 Million dollar Offer.

[Lady's Human]

I just wish they hadn't run Rep. J.C. Watts out of politics.

The NAACP made some rather disparaging remarks about Rep. Watts (who is black, so they SHOULD be defending him, not attacking him), and he basically got so disgusted with it he left politics completely.

[lizbud]

Has anyone heard these tapes yet? If you believe Mrs. Obama speaks
English with a heavy accent, then you might fall for this drivel. Too dumb
for words.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Has anyone heard these tapes yet? If you believe Mrs. Obama speaks
English with a heavy accent, then you might fall for this drivel. Too dumb
for words.

You mean these tapes...these tapes that will blow the lid off the election might be.....fake?????

I am shocked....absolutely shocked.

Next thing you will be telling me the brouhaha over Obama's birth certificate is so much bull hockey????

[Alysser]

At this point I think Nader's gonna win.

[Cinder & Smoke]

At this point I think Nader's gonna win.

I'd go with Dennis (The Menace) from Cleveland, but he dropped out.

[Grace]

I'd go with Dennis (The Menace) from Cleveland, but he dropped out.

Did you like him for himself - or his gorgeous wife

[kt_luvs_kitties]

I tend to believe that most people hire because of qualifications, instead of race. Call me naive.

Everyone in some way has felt discriminated against, black/white/mexican etc... I am the whitest girl you will ever meet. Really, southern accent and all. I have also felt prejudice against me. The people who are prejudice, I choose to ignore. They wont change, so I wont change my mind.

I must also add that gang violence is because of the gang and the need/want to break the law. NOT because the color of their skin. I also believe that the crime ridden areas with minorites, is BECAUSE the minorities are choosing to not be upstanding citizens in this society. THEY need to break the cycle... I can not and will not support helping those areas/people when they wont help themselves.

I will never believe in giving to one race, instead of ALL races. NO RACE (IMO)is more deserving than another.

I believe we should appreiciate our race, but not dwell on it and blame everything that does not go our way on the color of our skin. Until we do that, nothing will ever change.

[Cinder & Smoke]

[Dennis the Menace]
Did you like him for himself - or his gorgeous wife

I've *watched* Dennis since long before he aquired his "trophy" wife ...

I've sometimes been in awe of how downright GOOFY some of his ideas are.
And then, every so often, he slips in an almost workable idea I agree with.

He's sorta my "None of the Above" guy!

[Alysser]

I'd go with Dennis (The Menace) from Cleveland, but he dropped out.

LOL

[blue]

Has anyone heard these tapes yet? If you believe Mrs. Obama speaks
English with a heavy accent, then you might fall for this drivel. Too dumb
for words.

So if you heard the "tapes" at least give a clue where you heard them or you are talking out of your posterior. Again.

You mean these tapes...these tapes that will blow the lid off the election might be.....fake?????

I am shocked....absolutely shocked.

Next thing you will be telling me the brouhaha over Obama's birth certificate is so much bull hockey????

The BS about BO's CLB could very well be BH, its just odd that presenting a CC of the CLB is so difficult to produce. BO even recently went back to HI, he could have sent one of his disciples to retrieve it for him. Nor should be hard to prove he was never a citizen of Indonesia, or if he was that he reafirmed his USA citzenship by the age of 18.

I have to wonder if the Clinton's are funding Berg and his lawsuit.

[Cinder & Smoke]

BO's CLB ...
CC of the CLB ...

Your personal short-hand?

[blue]

Your personal short-hand?

BO-Barack Obama, CLB-Certificate of Live Birth, CC-Certified Copy, and BH of corse is Bull Hockey.

Ill happily admit I was hoaxed if this plays out the way the Obama worshippers hope it does.

[Giselle]

Katie, it's just not that nice and simple in our society. =/ You may feel, from your experiences, that society IS that fair and equal and that gang violence and inner city crime are direct results of minorities' lack of interest in gaining a better life, but it's NOT. *Nobody* truly wants to be in the ghetto, working min. wage jobs and facing constant, daily violence.

Here's a disturbingly common scenario:

How can an inner city minority girl go to college when 1) she skipped preschool because her mother could not afford it 2) went to underfunded and, basically, cr@ppy public elementary/middle schools 3) went to an underfunded high school ridden with bad influences, etc. 4) her parents are busy working minimum wage jobs and not giving her the attention she needs 5) she doesn't have the access to the proper resources to get out of her situation, etc. etc.?

There's a reason why there are so many young/teenage pregnancies in inner cities. There's a reason why drugs are such a big problem, as are pimps and prostitution. It's not a life style they choose. It's often the only options available. It's sad. It's extremely sad, but how can they escape that cycle when there's no loophole out? *This* is why we need affirmative action programs.

I guess it's very difficult to talk about when we're coming from two totally different atmospheres. =/

Caseysmom, thanks for the compliments The Bay Area is very diverse, but that also makes us all aware of our differences. Oakland is a prime example. East/west Oakland are extremely crime ridden and inhabited primarily by af-ams and hispanics. North Oakland, near Piedmont, is extremely affluent and predominately white. The two best Oakland schools are in North Oakland. Some of THE worst schools in perhaps the state are in east/west Oakland. It's just sad that this disparity even exists, but it does.

[kt_luvs_kitties]

You are right, I am offended IF someone {anyone} gets into college, just because their parents went there. Only if they work for it, and deserve it.

Just like I believe that NOONE should get something for nothing. Noone should get college scholarships, based on race. In my mind, race= nothing. It means nothing to me. I love my race, I hope that others love theirs. BUT it should NOT entitle ANYONE to ANYTHING, IMO.
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:And yes, you are naive if you believe most people get hired because of their qualifications. They get hired because of where they went to school, who they know, how well they interview, how well they dress, and ...yeah qualifications:

Almost all of the above is what I define as qualifications... Schooling, interview, dress... The only I dont is who they know...
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Hey, minorities get into college for free... ISNT that on a HIGHER playing field ? An unfair advantage?? My parents and myself have to pay for my schooling, work hard EVERYDAY, but someone else, can just get in for free? That is not equal OR fair to me...


Edited to add: And no, myself or my family has never been on ANY government assistance. I believe that people who TRULY need it should get it.

[blue]

:And yes, you are naive if you believe most people get hired because of their qualifications. They get hired because of where they went to school, who they know, how well they interview, how well they dress, and ...yeah qualifications:

Almost all of the above is what I define as qualifications... Schooling, interview, dress... The only I dont is who they know...

I can kinda agree to this. Ive worked for 7 electrical shops since 1992, only 2 of my bosses appreciated my skill and knowlege of the trade. I wear shorts most of the year, I might shave once a month, usualy longer between shaves and when I do I usually shave my head at the same time, I have 5 tattoos, my tounge is pierced, and I have a tendancy to be harsh and abrasive. For a number a years after I started running my own crew I had a mohawk, before and after my USMC experience. No matter how many times I proved myself, 5 companies judged me by my dress and appearance not my qualifications.

I have seen people with connections in the construction trades get a pass on their skills, their knowlege, and their dealings with homeowners and builders time after time for many reasons, who their parents are, who they know, and their ethnicity are just 3 examples. Only 2 of the companies Ive worked for respected my skill and knowlege of the trade. I am now slower then the younger crews, and I found out from my now dead bosses wife how much he respected my knowlege and skills. I do things right the first time and make no excuses for the few times I do eff up, heck Im the first to admit Ive effed up. Alot of the guys Ive worked with over the years will throw someone else under the bus to make themselves look better and try and move up when things get effed up or just take more time then expected.

The fact that the Obama camp preemptively played the race card, to me, says alot about his character. The people he associated with for years and now suddenly are distant or casual acquaintances speaks alot about his character as well.

So until I hear or read first hand the interview, see a judgement in Bergs lawsuit, and heck lets toss in Michelle Obama's college thesis as well, BO's character is very questionable.