Honest Obama Question (From a non-supporter)

[blue]

Can you please find some video of that?

That was what I asked for, video proof, not reports on what a reporter reported.

I have not been able to find video where someone shouts out "kill him", and in the video K9soul linked to stated someone yelled "off with his head" but failed to show the video proof of it. I have searched for the Video footage of these claims and found a few where people have yelled terrrorist and treason and zero of any footage where somebody yelled "kill him". 500000 google hits mean absolutly nothing if they dont show footage of the reported claim.

So if you dont know the difference between video footage and a report of an event you shouldnt be calling someone internet challenged.

[K9soul]

Blue,

Sorry if I misunderstood what you are looking for. I've seen plenty of youtube clips of people spewing hatred, I clearly heard the "terrorist" call at a clip of one of McCain's rallies, and obviously there was enough of that going on that McCain took notice and eventually spoke up about it. I don't really see yelling "terrorist" as any better than "kill him." None of it is good. That does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that all McCain supporters have those feelings. I don't doubt that the hatred exists. There has always been racism and bigotry, and when a man of a different race is running for the presidency it's bound to come out. Rallies tend to induce a mob mentality in a crowd, and it's really not that much of a stretch to think that in their fervor, some people have yelled out such things. I'm not one to blindly believe whatever the media says, but I don't find it implausible based on other things I have seen and heard.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The suggest that "proof" does exist unless it is on videotape is a little silly.

Life does happen without a video camera turned on!

Geez...this MTV/Reality Show generation!

[blue]

Blue,

Sorry if I misunderstood what you are looking for. I've seen plenty of youtube clips of people spewing hatred, I clearly heard the "terrorist" call at a clip of one of McCain's rallies, and obviously there was enough of that going on that McCain took notice and eventually spoke up about it. I don't really see yelling "terrorist" as any better than "kill him." None of it is good. That does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that all McCain supporters have those feelings. I don't doubt that the hatred exists. There has always been racism and bigotry, and when a man of a different race is running for the presidency it's bound to come out. Rallies tend to induce a mob mentality in a crowd, and it's really not that much of a stretch to think that in their fervor, some people have yelled out such things. I'm not one to blindly believe whatever the media says, but I don't find it implausible based on other things I have seen and heard.

I do not atribute someone yelling "terrorist" after the mention of William Ayres, an actual terroist, to mean NObama is a terrorist so its not the same as "kill him". Nor do I think race has anything to do with it. With all the media coverage of Palins ralies it should be real easy to type "Sarah Palin kill him" into youtubes search engine and find the appropriate video, the worst that comes up is the terrorist comment.

The actual video hasnt been posted by those who claim to have seen it, if they have actually seen it at all, choosing instead to make snide and insulting comments. Because of that, Im lead to beleive they are just blowwing smoke.

[Edwina's Secretary]

How odd is that??? YouTube as the definitive source for news!

If is is not on YouTube...it didn't happen!



Makes all history prior to 2000 and whatever...just blowing smoke!

(and to think there are those who laugh at The Daily Show as a news source! )

[K9soul]

I just wanted to clarify when I made my comment about bigotry and racism, those are comments I HAVE heard and seen first-hand. "He's an arab" "he's a black" "he's a terrorist" There's a lot of it out there. I hope you're not trying to say no one who is against Obama isn't due to racism issues or because of his name? It's not representative of all McCain/Palin followers, just like nutjob Obama followers aren't representative of all Obama followers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jr2TpMKpWk

[caseysmom]

Wow...ignorance is alive and well in Ohio! (and I am sure every other state)

[K9soul]

I was raised in southwest Missouri, not far from Branson. I am sure some of the people I knew and grew up around would have those same sentiments. I am sure there are many black people voting for Obama on race/color alone too. It is a sad state of affairs when someone's name, religion or color is what someone is judged by.

I know Obama is Christian, though some believe he is secretly muslim. I would have no problem voting for a jewish, muslim, agnostic, or whatever a person's faith may be, if I felt they were qualified and represented the ideas I most agreed with.

[blue]

I just wanted to clarify when I made my comment about bigotry and racism, those are comments I HAVE heard and seen first-hand. "He's an arab" "he's a black" "he's a terrorist" There's a lot of it out there. I hope you're not trying to say no one who is against Obama isn't due to racism issues or because of his name? It's not representative of all McCain/Palin followers, just like nutjob Obama followers aren't representative of all Obama followers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jr2TpMKpWk

Ive heard the same comments too searching for the "kill him" videos. Yes bigotry and racism are still alive in both parties, booing Barack or yelling "terrorist" isnt allways going to be indicitive of racism or bigotry. Trying to say it is is just as ignorant as saying it isnt.

[K9soul]

Barack or yelling "terrorist" isnt allways going to be indicitive of racism or bigotry. Trying to say it is is just as ignorant as saying it isnt.

I guess you just want to argue, because I don't. I never claimed the terrorist remarks were borne of racism. I just put them in the same category of ignorance as the other remarks.

[blue]

How odd is that??? YouTube as the definitive source for news!

If is is not on YouTube...it didn't happen!



Makes all history prior to 2000 and whatever...just blowing smoke!

(and to think there are those who laugh at The Daily Show as a news source! )

You claim to have seen the video, post the link and prove it. Otherwise you are just blowwing smoke.

Youtube is not a difinitive source, but if it actually happened someone would have posted it there. There are plenty of videos there with the disparaging comments, why isnt this one there? Im actually suprised nobody has posted an editted video as proof. Maybe you could suggest that to the DNC for them to consider.

Doing a google news search dosent come up with a video of the incident, only refferences in reports to it.

I work with someone who has not only cited The Daily Show and the Colbert Report as his sources for a number of "news" items.