Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

[K9soul]

and when a group of women get together there is usually more than one conversation going on.. the talking gets loud, it gets fast and it gets high pitched and it SOUNDS like a hen house

I guess I'm more an exception to the norm then . I tend to become quiet in a large group or else speak lower one-on-one with someone off away from the main group. I hate competing with a lot of noise. In my ex's family gatherings however, the men were just as loud or louder than the women. It was a big family with a noisy bunch, where-as I was raised in a quiet house with just me and my mother. At the big gatherings, I always retreated to a quieter room after a couple hours to get a break!

[Edwina's Secretary]

If you read Deborah Tannen's book one of the things she talks about...when women talk to each other they nod. This is how women (normally) communicate. It is an indication of "I'm listening." If you look at a group of women talking they look like those dogs with the wiggly heads in the back of automobiles.

When men nod it is -- in "men speak" if you will, a sign of agreement.

The breakdown can occur when a woman is non-verbally saying "I am listening" and the man is non-verbally hearing "I agree with you."

And of course, when the man does not nod...women hear "not listening."

It is a very interesting area of study that crosses cultures as well.

And can be useful to understanding each other.

Perhaps this could be a visual that contributed to the term "hen party" all though I have never heard that term used in any "endearing" way!

[Lady's Human]

ES, I wasn't insulting WOMEN in general. It was again, a specific comment on specific comments and behavior, not anyone in general.

When men nod it is -- in "men speak" if you will, a sign of agreement.

Bollocks, to be polite. As with all non-verbal communication, it is situational, and dependent on far more than just gender.

If that's a great revelation in the book, then the book should be in the recycling bin.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Gosh darn it LH...there you go bein polite and respectful again.

Let's see...what all are you an expert about....

By golly...the list is just too dang long.

Sorry Karen....but if that silly photo joke of women toting while men didn't was offensive enough to men for you to shut it down....

Can you REALLY say that to say to some that they are like "a bunch of old biddies" is not an insult???

I realize you have to take care of your brother and all but...

[Lady's Human]

Classic, ES.

If you can't debate, denigrate.

Karen doesn't "take care of me" nor do I take care of her.

You may want to take a course in civil debate, emphasis on CIVIL.

[lizbud]

If you can't debate, denigrate.

Exactly LH. Get a grip man.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Classic, ES.

If you can't debate, denigrate.

Karen doesn't "take care of me" nor do I take care of her.

You may want to take a course in civil debate, emphasis on CIVIL.

As you denigate? "Bunch of biddies." Is that a debate tactic?

Or this...

If that's a great revelation in the book, then the book should be in the recycling bin.

Debate? Civil?

I challenge you to find where in this thread ANYONE has complained about WHAT Sarah Palin was wearing. It was about the cost of what she wore and where the money came from to buy the clothes.

You turned it from a discussion into a denigation...of the people who were posting.

Civility? Why don't you demonstate it to me? I've yet to see any from you.

[RICHARD]

If that's a great revelation in the book, then the book should be in the recycling bin.

LOL, you may want to take a look at that sentence, I can see some followers of a certain religion taking that statement as an attack on a certain book,
King James or not!

[lizbud]

I hate competing with a lot of noise. In my ex's family gatherings however, the men were just as loud or louder than the women. It was a big family with a noisy bunch, where-as I was raised in a quiet house with just me and my mother. I always retreated to a quieter room after a couple hours to get a break!

You would have had a hard time ( or be a different person) if you had grown up in my family. I was raised with four rowdy brothers & only one
sister who was 10 years younger than me. You had to speak up and
hold your own, or be lost in the shuffle.

[sparks19]

I guess I'm more an exception to the norm then . I tend to become quiet in a large group or else speak lower one-on-one with someone off away from the main group. I hate competing with a lot of noise. In my ex's family gatherings however, the men were just as loud or louder than the women. It was a big family with a noisy bunch, where-as I was raised in a quiet house with just me and my mother. At the big gatherings, I always retreated to a quieter room after a couple hours to get a break!

LOL there are always exceptions to the rule

I am LOUD... I always will be loud lol. My whole family (with the exception of my mother) is LOOOOOOUUUUUUUDDDDDD. lol

So my father also doesn't fit into the category of "quiet if there is a ball game on" the only time he is quiet is when he is asleep lol.