Kitten 6-8 Weeks, Kids Abuse it. HEARD FROM HER TODAY THURSDAY!

**JustineNYC** · 10-22-2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by phesina

I gather that there are people who get their kicks out of "making things happen"... particularly getting bleeding-hearts types to jump through hoops to try to help a child/pet/deathly ill person/etc. be rescued.

If anyone has some good ideas we could use to convince them it's worth checking out, I can call the Jackson Police and/or the Jackson County Animal Control tomorrow to see if we could get a court order for the ISP to release identifying information on this "Charity."

As Melissa said, it can be rather expensive, but I would be willing to at least contribute. I could perhaps get an idea of the expense involved from the authorities when I call.

I'm kind of thinking this is just a troll too, but on the off chance the kitten is real and so is the danger, I'll keep trying to get her.

Pat

Well now that everyone has been ubber nice to the lady, why doesnt someone email her and tell her you are contacting her police department and internet service provider to try and see if the entire thing was a hoax.

It may scare her, cause being nice and pleading isnt working.

**Catty1** · 10-23-2008, 09:26 AM

JustineNYC - that's a good idea in that it WOULD scare her - but then she could delete her post and just disappear...and if there IS a kitten, then the effort is futzed!

Unless someone can report a case of suspected animal abuse, AND the only contact/witness is this person they can't find...then the AC or whoever might be able to get info from the ISP that we can't - especially if someone happens to be friends with the guy.

**Anikaca77** · 10-23-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Catty1

JustineNYC - that's a good idea in that it WOULD scare her - but then she could delete her post and just disappear...and if there IS a kitten, then the effort is futzed!

Unless someone can report a case of suspected animal abuse, AND the only contact/witness is this person they can't find...then the AC or whoever might be able to get info from the ISP that we can't - especially if someone happens to be friends with the guy.

Yes we don't want to scare her off. I wish she would of e-mailed last night but I have a feeling there is nothing more we can do but wait to hear from her.

I just can't believe though if this is a hoax that she would want to do this because it just doesn't seem like one, because she's not asking for any money or anything. All I wanted was to share my love with this kitten but how can I help her if I can't get this kitten.

Melissa

**Anikaca77** · 10-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Here is the latest:

Yes, I have been very busy and can not get online
everyday. I have a 12 year old son and a boyfriend,
so, I spend time with them. I also have a dog and
other family members.

As for the kitten, theres really not much I can do
until, I either see her, or can get in touch with my
neighbors, which, I have yet to do, that's why, I haven't
got back to you...I have no new news on her yet. I am
trying my hardest, to get her to you before Halloween
gets here.

Anyways, I just can't give out someone elses address,
for safety reasons and I know, I wouldn't want someone
giving mine out without my permission.

**Medusa** · 10-23-2008, 10:37 AM

Blah blah blah! We're all busy and some of us have waaay more to do than raise a 12 year old who's in school all day. And a boyfriend, too? My my, how does she do it? Does she not think that you're busy and that you have a family, too? Her attitude is callous and she's full of it! No apology, no concern for the kitten other than saying she wants it to be rescued by Halloween. There's no real caring here for this kitten; she's more concerned about the neighbor who is allowing the abuse to continue than she is about the kitten. How can she say that she's trying her hardest to get the kitten to you when she just admitted that she hasn't even contacted the neighbor yet?! This makes me furious!

**Anikaca77** · 10-23-2008, 11:10 AM

Mary,

Save your energy for Pidge, BTW I forgot to mention I got her phone number.

Melissa

Originally Posted by Medusa

Blah blah blah! We're all busy and some of us have waaay more to do than raise a 12 year old who's in school all day. And a boyfriend, too? My my, how does she do it? Does she not think that you're busy and that you have a family, too? Her attitude is callous and she's full of it! No apology, no concern for the kitten other than saying she wants it to be rescued by Halloween. There's no real caring here for this kitten; she's more concerned about the neighbor who is allowing the abuse to continue than she is about the kitten. How can she say that she's trying her hardest to get the kitten to you when she just admitted that she hasn't even contacted the neighbor yet?! This makes me furious!

**Emeraldgreen** · 10-23-2008, 11:19 AM

I wonder if a 'neutral' meeting spot that would be considered safe by Charity would be more appealing to her. What if you asked her to scoop the kitten the next time she sees it and then meets you at a police station parking lot or an animal control facility. That way she would hopefully feel safe.

It does sound fishy and her safety and her neighbour's safety seem to be her biggest issue so it would be interesting to see what she would say if you suggested this. But I think I read somewhere in your thread that she doesn't want to just 'take' the cat so that might not work.

**GILL** · 10-23-2008, 11:20 AM

There is a good chance that you could do a reverse look up on line. I do this farely often as some of my customers leave off thier address.

**pomtzu** · 10-23-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Medusa

Blah blah blah! We're all busy and some of us have waaay more to do than raise a 12 year old who's in school all day. And a boyfriend, too? My my, how does she do it? Does she not think that you're busy and that you have a family, too? Her attitude is callous and she's full of it! No apology, no concern for the kitten other than saying she wants it to be rescued by Halloween. There's no real caring here for this kitten; she's more concerned about the neighbor who is allowing the abuse to continue than she is about the kitten. How can she say that she's trying her hardest to get the kitten to you when she just admitted that she hasn't even contacted the neighbor yet?! This makes me furious!

Ditto Mary!

Let's see - I have myself to look out for, plus in the same house is my 12 yr old grandson, my son, my DIL, 2 dogs, and 2 cats - and I manage to find lots of spare time to do just about anything I want. Not that I have to look out for the other adults, but I take on as much as any parent with my grandson! This broad needs to learn how to multi-task, or just one task in this instance would be great! GET THE KITTEN! And why the heck did she even ask for help before she had the kitten in her possession???

I would think that should have been the starting point! DUH!

**lvpets2002** · 10-23-2008, 01:06 PM

I am with the rest of you guys.. This person is full of CRAP.. If I only had a 12 yr old son & a boyfriend = I for sure would be very board with life.. There is something that lady is not telling.. I wish she just would help give the kitten a good home.. Which I guess in this women's thoughts that would take more mental time Than time from the Heart..

Originally Posted by pomtzu

Ditto Mary!

Let's see - I have myself to look out for, plus in the same house is my 12 yr old grandson, my son, my DIL, 2 dogs, and 2 cats - and I manage to find lots of spare time to do just about anything I want. Not that I have to look out for the other adults, but I take on as much as any parent with my grandson! This broad needs to learn how to multi-task, or just one task in this instance would be great! GET THE KITTEN! And why the heck did she even ask for help before she had the kitten in her possession???

I would think that should have been the starting point! DUH!

**Anikaca77** · 10-23-2008, 01:09 PM

Hi everyone. I just sent this message to Pat so I figured you guys would like to read it as well. So here it is.

But I decided I wanted to see if the phone number she gave us was real and well it is.

I called her about 11:50 a.m. and talked with her till 12:20 p.m.

So anyway, I asked her if Pat (as long as Pat doesn't mind that is and has
the time) could call her later this evening and then you (Charity) can make
plans and possibly give Pat your address so that way if you don't mind Pat
could stop by your house, meet with you and see where you normally would see the kitten.

I think if you talk with her long enough she will be willing to do so. I
also told her that she doesn't need to give me her address since I'm in PA
but it would be helpful since Pat lives only about 40 miles from her roughly
speaking.

She went over that she does care for this cat but she's on diability and her
neighbors told her she could have this kitten as well because it's not her
neighbors that own the cat that abuse it, it's the neighbors next door to
them.

She also told me that she used to foster animals for a local humane society
who would drop off animals and then pick them up once they were adopted.

I asked her if she could put my phone number and Pat's number (hopefully you didn't mind Pat) on a piece of paper and put it in their mailbox letting
them know that we are interested in adopting the black kitten.

So I told her I would provide a great home and vet care for this kitten and
I would love it.

Ok so that's where it stands and it does sound like she's a little older and
she's just wanting to be careful about giving out her address and I told her
I completely understand but I trust Pat and she's a good person I told her.
I said everyone on PT loves cats and we are just trying to help her out.

I told her that you would probably be willing to come up and sit for a few hours if she wouldn't mind outside her house to see if you could see the kitten. I think she would be willing too once you talk with her, if you can tonight or sometime.

Well that's all for now.

Talk with ya later,
Melissa

**JustineNYC** · 10-23-2008, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Catty1

JustineNYC - that's a good idea in that it WOULD scare her - but then she could delete her post and just disappear...and if there IS a kitten, then the effort is futzed!

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Yea but shes already scared and not cooperative. This started 10/9? Shes had days to talk to her neighbors, how long does it take to ring a doorbell?