Dog Breeds -- Then and Now

[BC_MoM]

I agree with you, Lute, about the GSD. I really didn't notice how horrible it was until I saw Pedigree Dogs Exposed. Now every time I see a GSD like that, I want to be sick.

[lute]

I agree with you, Lute, about the GSD. I really didn't notice how horrible it was until I saw Pedigree Dogs Exposed. Now every time I see a GSD like that, I want to be sick.

What is this Pedigree Dogs Exposed??? I looked it up and found some on it. I can't seem to find the video though.

[cassiesmom]

Spiritwind, what an interesting thread you started! I went through it quickly but I will come back and read it carefully. I didn't know about the long history of breeding collies or that they have different looks in Europe.

I agree with the point that Lute made about the GSD. My mom and I were watching a dog show on the Animal Planet and when the GSD came on, we said to each other "What is wrong with that dog's hips?" We guessed (obviously wrong) that the dog couldn't straighten up.

[Giselle]

What is this Pedigree Dogs Exposed??? I looked it up and found some on it. I can't seem to find the video though.

Original thread with before and after pics of various dog breeds:
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=145435

[shepgirl]

I agree with you, Lute, about the GSD. I really didn't notice how horrible it was until I saw Pedigree Dogs Exposed. Now every time I see a GSD like that, I want to be sick.

I agree with both of you about the GSD. Being a GSD owner I never buy from show stock for this reason. All my dogs are east German, sometimes west German lines. These rears on the ground make me sick also. Everybody seems to be out to see if they can get the most angulated dog. I blame the judges for even looking at these dogs, let alone give them best in show.
We now have people breeding clownish pandas to make matters worse, or whites, which go totally against the standard. At least they are not recognized in the ring so they might fade away soon.

[Spiritwind]

Everybody seems to be out to see if they can get the most angulated dog. I blame the judges for even looking at these dogs, let alone give them best in show.

I totally agree! See this is the reason why I say the reason certain breeds have changed is not JUST because of breeders, but because of judges. Judges have a HUGE impact on what dogs are bred, and how they are bred. If judges did not award dogs with these exagerated faults (like GSD or Pekes or Bulldogs) that do not meet the original breed standard, people wouldn't breed them!....

People see a GSD that is so over angulated in the rear that its walking on its hocks, and it wins, and keeps winning, taking major wins, group placements or group wins and so if its a male, people breed bitches to him because he is winning a lot and they want to win. Its fads that change breeds! If judges judged to the standards and not the fads of the time, not as many people would breed these dogs with these over exagerated faults.....If people got kicked out of the ring for it, people would change it!.... JMO

[shepgirl]

Have to agree withyou on that one SpiritWind...maybe the judges should exclude these extremes from the ring. Handing them best of breed only intensifies the need to breed them even more....vicious cycle.

[Pop Alexandra]

Have to agree withyou on that one SpiritWind...maybe the judges should exclude these extremes from the ring. Handing them best of breed only intensifies the need to breed them even more....vicious cycle.

Totally agree. We should consider the dogs' needs a lot more when breeding.
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Alexandra from W2C