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    Here's a question that I pondered for all of three seconds.

    If BO was a community organizer, just like JC, where are all the reports/news clips of the wonderful things he's done?

    I figure if he can claim that on a resume', why not give us some hard facts to judge him by.

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    Another thing about the debate.

    What was the "That's not true!" statement getting tossed in while JM was talking?
    That's one of the "dem' tactics I have noticed the party has adapted lately. SHOUT PEOPLE DOWN!!!!! Sheesh. what a marroon!

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    My daughter had to critic the debate for a political science class. It is pretty interesting, things that we would not have noticed if she had not been asked to notice. One of the questions is whether or not the canditate looks into the camera or do they look around at other things and look down.

    McCain always looked down and around and pretty much anywhere but the camera, Obama stared right into the camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Obama stared right into the camera.
    The telepromter is in line with the camera isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The telepromter is in line with the camera isnt it?
    On a camera? Yes.

    The other setup for a TP is one monitor set-up on either side of a podium/stand. Those are the square panes of glass that you see on the stage.

    The monitor where the text is displayed is set pointing upwards.
    The pane of glass that reflects the text is slanted 45 degrees (top edge of the glass from a vertical position) toward the person that is giving the speech.

    The camera mounted TP hangs off the front of the camera and the pane of glass is set in in front of the lense so the person can read text and look 'into' the camera.

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    Each candidate has speech writers and "consultants" who advise them as to where to look, which hand gestures that aren't cool and what not to do while on camera/stage.

    Do not confuse anything you see as sincere when a politician speaks.

    As in a regular conversation with someone, looking away when you are speaking to them is considered rude and shows disrespect to that person.

    BO was schooled to look into the camera, to make a connection with the audience. That's an old one. Politicians are told that eye contact is essential when talking to people. That was a mistake on BO's part. He's debating JM, not the audience. Looking down and checking a cheat sheet and making tic marks on the copy is not a bad thing. It means you are prepared with 'notes' for your presentation, it also means you need help to set up a thought or answer to a question.

    Three things about Obama- He is only eloquent when being fed a speech, He cannot speak off the cuff or deviate from a script- His Ums and Ahs are part of his character that his toadies cannot control about him.

    His bravado only serves to get him farther up the creek when he gets caught up in the crowd reaction. He starts to puff out his chest and starts to pace.

    The last thing is the facial/body language. He 'jumps' onto the stage like an sports figure taking the court. He does the bounce, hand clap and pointing into the audience.

    That entrance, the 'talking smack/rile up the audience' is more suited to sports gamesmanship. It shows that you are there to be lauded by the audience-Not the other way around. You are supposed to be there for the people...Entrances like that are just "HEY LOOK AT ME, IT"S ABOUT ME!" - It just puts the person above the crowd and not 'inviting' them to a level where everyone is equal.
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    Clinton 'invented' the CREDIT CARD gesture because his toadies thought that his finger pointing gestures were standoffish. They told him to use it instead of a finger.

    The CCG is the fist balled up with the thumb on top, like you were handing off a credit card. YOu see it all the time now. Another 'gesture' for politicians who talk with their hands? Holding on the side of the podium.

    When you listen or see a politician talk, stop and look at their gestures, tones and the cadence in their speech. You'll see a how insincere/honest they are.

    Check it out.

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    I sort of like this idea. There were minutes in the first debate where
    it was really necessary.

    New Debate Rules Allow For One 15-Second Strangulation
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    OXFORD, MS—Amid discussions of possibly postponing the debate altogether, Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and John McCain (R-AZ) were able to agree Thursday on a new guideline that would allow each candidate one 15-second strangulation during Friday night's presidential debate. "Both candidates will receive two minutes to answer each question, five minutes for discussion, and a one-time-only option to walk over to their opponent's podium and cut off his oxygen supply for up to 15 seconds," a statement from the Commission on Presidential Debates read in part, also specifying that debate moderator Jim Lehrer can exercise his own discretion in determining whether or not the strangulations go over time. "After being choked, the candidate, if still standing, may counter with one of his two allotted empty beer bottles to the head." Because many have agreed the new rule will benefit McCain, the commission has also allotted Obama an optional double-thumbed eye gouge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I sort of like this idea. There were minutes in the first debate where
    it was really necessary.

    New Debate Rules Allow For One 15-Second Strangulation
    September 25, 2008 |

    OXFORD, MS—Amid discussions of possibly postponing the debate altogether, Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and John McCain (R-AZ) were able to agree Thursday on a new guideline that would allow each candidate one 15-second strangulation during Friday night's presidential debate. "Both candidates will receive two minutes to answer each question, five minutes for discussion, and a one-time-only option to walk over to their opponent's podium and cut off his oxygen supply for up to 15 seconds," a statement from the Commission on Presidential Debates read in part, also specifying that debate moderator Jim Lehrer can exercise his own discretion in determining whether or not the strangulations go over time. "After being choked, the candidate, if still standing, may counter with one of his two allotted empty beer bottles to the head." Because many have agreed the new rule will benefit McCain, the commission has also allotted Obama an optional double-thumbed eye gouge.

    Can you post a link to this story?

    Actually the next debate will have MMA rules in place, No biting, strikes to the back of the head, no bending fingers, gouging or kicking or knee strikes to the head when your opponent has knees on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Can you post a link to this story?

    Actually the next debate will have MMA rules in place, No biting, strikes to the back of the head, no bending fingers, gouging or kicking or knee strikes to the head when your opponent has knees on the ground.

    Actually, I do. What's MMA?
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