What do you base your political decisions on?

[Lady's Human]

Different animal, in that he's not using his rank to enhance his status. For instance, without the COL, USAR ******* after his name, would that statement have even been posted on this board?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Different animal, in that he's not using his rank to enhance his status.

Senator to President - not enhanced status?

[lizbud]

For instance, without the COL, USAR ******* after his name, would that statement have even been posted on this board?

You bet your life it would. I like these ideas offered and I don't care if
he graduated high school or not. This man makes sense.


This man is also retired from Military service & can say what he wants to say.

What are they going to do, hold his military retirement check? Retired
Military are allowed to use their former rank after they leave the service.
It's done all the time.

[RICHARD]

It's done all the time.

Let's see if my creds make me anymore noteworthy?


Reporter KGIL Radio (RET.), Writer/proofreader JHFPHS Optimist (RET.), Volunteer KFH Charities/Community Outreach (RET.), Contributor LADN/LAT (RET.), LIMOM (RET.)


Nope, I still sound like an AH.

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My nephew -USMC (RET.) - and I once had spirited convo about Bill Clinton and what he thought about him. My nephew surprised me, He sheepishly shrugged his shoulders, smiled and said that he could not comment on his CIC? This was at the time of BC's budget cuts and pillaging of the AF of America.

To this day he really won't comment about politics. He was a lowly grunt, but I am proud that he didn't take the rules that he was under-and is no longer bound by seriously.

It's like driving, You get less stressed and arrive in better spirits when you stop tooting your horn at every stop sign.

[lizbud]

Let's see if my creds make me anymore noteworthy?


Reporter KGIL Radio (RET.), Writer/proofreader JHFPHS Optimist (RET.), Volunteer KFH Charities/Community Outreach (RET.), Contributor LADN/LAT (RET.), LIMOM (RET.)


Nope, I still sound like an AH.

Now Richard, don't be so hard on yourself.

How many more titles do you want to have in your lifetime? How many job
apps did you put in today? Any nibbles?

[RICHARD]

Now Richard, don't be so hard on yourself.

How many more titles do you want to have in your lifetime? How many job
apps did you put in today? Any nibbles?

Dearest,

IT's all in jest, I have to laugh at myself!

I wasted too many years wondering what people thought about me, to really find out what I thought about myself.

Plus, if I laugh long enough, the people around me start to laugh, too!


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I actually do have a job, IT's taking care of mom!!!

Psst....LIMOM means Legend In My Own Mind!

[Lady's Human]

You cannot use your retired military rank to advance a political statement, period. It's a violation of both the UCMJ and the Hatch act. And yes, they can withhold pay and take other punitive actions, and I wish they would. There were various issues in the 2004 campaign with both sides trotting out wounded soldiers, vets, etc. in uniform. Everyone got a quick reminder about the Hatch act, and no further action was taken, as usual.

Had he not used the rank, I almost guarantee Obama's campaign wouldn't have made that mailing.

[Edwina's Secretary]

You cannot use your retired military rank to advance a political statement, period. It's a violation of both the UCMJ and the Hatch act. And yes, they can withhold pay and take other punitive actions, and I wish they would. There were various issues in the 2004 campaign with both sides trotting out wounded soldiers, vets, etc. in uniform. Everyone got a quick reminder about the Hatch act, and no further action was taken, as usual.

Had he not used the rank, I almost guarantee Obama's campaign wouldn't have made that mailing.

How sad. I did not realize Americans are required to give up their constitutional rights when they join the military. Rather ironic, isn't it?

So how did those horrid Swift Boaters get away with lying about a fellow soldier? Is that permissable? How are you allowed to express policitical opinions on here? How are former military people allowed to serve in congress or the cabinet?

And...how does McCain get away with it?

[lizbud]

You cannot use your retired military rank to advance a political statement, period. It's a violation of both the UCMJ and the Hatch act. And yes, they can withhold pay and take other punitive actions, and I wish they would. There were various issues in the 2004 campaign with both sides trotting out wounded soldiers, vets, etc. in uniform. Everyone got a quick reminder about the Hatch act, and no further action was taken, as usual.

Had he not used the rank, I almost guarantee Obama's campaign wouldn't have made that mailing.

The statement by a retired officer was NOT used in any mailing.

Re using the Hatch Act to enforce silence on political issues on non serving
military members is unconstitutional. I would love to see a court case on this
very issue, but it won't happen. Now, if a active military officer voiced his
personal beliefs while in service of his country, then that's a different ball
game.