McCain/Palin ???

**Pam** · 09-03-2008, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

The Puckstop31 that started this thread is gone. I made my apology for saying some boneheaded things earlier. FWIW, I am enjoying this back and forth with you and the others. This election is going to be an important one and it is good for We The People to talk about it.

It takes a big man to write that. I too owe you an apology. I think Gov. Palin has changed many minds tonight and you were one of the early ones to adopt a wait and see attitude. CNN said she "hit it out of the park" tonight and I have to agree. We'll have to see how this thing plays out. Never a dull moment with this election.

**Puckstop31** · 09-03-2008, 11:49 PM

Thanks Pam. Now, PM Edwinas Secretary and all the others who put me on their ignore list. Tell them to take me off so we can have honest discussion. LOL My passion gets the best of me at times.

I don't know if she hit it out of the park... But it was a stand up triple for sure. I only wish she would have told us more about her self and talked LESS about BO. Personally, if you watched this speech with an open mind, the issue of who is more experienced has been put to bed. Also, I need to dig a little more on BO's voting record. 130 "Present" votes while in the Illinois Legislature? Hmmmmmmm..... Can he really handle the "3am call" on his own??? What really qualifies him to lead? What has he lead? What is his definition of leadership?

I want to sleep on it and digest it a bit more... Can't wait to get back at it tomorrow.

G'night. LOL

**sparks19** · 09-03-2008, 11:59 PM

I must say I really enjoyed listening to her speak.

I too wish it was less about Obama... the whole night not just her. I really liked the part when Rudy said about how it was unbelievable that her abilities as a mother and whether or not she would have time to take care of 5 children if she got the VP. NEVER have they EVER or WOULD they ever ask a man that. couldn't that be said about any candidate with children who aren't adults already? Seems a little biased and borderline sexist. She has a husband and I'm sure he's very capable of taking care of the children too. I know my husband can be totally trusted with our daughter and I would feel comfortable if him and I switched "jobs" and he became a stay at home dad and I went to work.

But I think I have TWO favourite parts. One is funny and the other serious. First of all I loved how she talked about how she said "no thank you" to congress when they wanted to fund the bridge building and said that if they wanted that bridge they would build it themselves. I am REALLY on board with "the American people can do it without government" idea. the funny one... I loved the hockey mom joke lol. "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick" LOL wonderful and very true. I am not a hockey mom... YET. but I am a hockey aunt, a hockey sister, a hockey wife and just an all around hockey fan and THAT is true lol. We are sweet and cuddly most of the time... but mess with one of our own and you are dead meat LOL.

**shais_mom** · 09-04-2008, 12:00 AM

I normally stay outta the dog house but in order to educate myself I read this thread in its entireity. I'm not sure I'm more educated or not.
I think that its going to be a tough call.
I'm not entirely sure some areas of this country are ready to welcome an African American man (qualified or not) as President. Those same areas of the country probably aren't ready to see a woman as VP either.
Her family's decisions and life choices just like the other canidates shouldn't be brought to the table. There isn't a parent of a teenager out there that agrees with all of the decisions their kids make. There are several parents on this board alone that I can name that would DISagree with their kids decisions. Mrs. Palin is no different.
A lot of areas I agree with her - a lot I don't - just like everyone else - there isn't one candidate that I would agree with completely I'm sure. But I'm sure a LOT of people are going to relate to Mrs. Palin with a child in Iraq, a pregnant teenager and a baby with Down's Syndrome. right or wrong - I think that is going to be the way it is.

**lizbud** · 09-04-2008, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by shais_mom

A lot of areas I agree with her - a lot I don't - just like everyone else - there isn't one candidate that I would agree with completely I'm sure. But I'm sure a LOT of people are going to relate to Mrs. Palin with a child in Iraq, a pregnant teenager and a baby with Down's Syndrome. right or wrong - I think that is going to be the way it is.

Sen Biden's son Beau is a Captain in the Delaware National Guard and
his unit has been called up. He leaves for Iraq in October. I'm pretty sure
Biden could make a big deal out of this by speaking publicly about his son
and Military service, but he doesn't.

**shais_mom** · 09-04-2008, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by lizbud

Sen Biden's son Beau is a Captain in the Delaware National Guard and
his unit has been called up. He leaves for Iraq in October. I'm pretty sure
Biden could make a big deal out of this by speaking publicly about his son
and Military service, but he doesn't.

From what I've seen - and my experience/exposure is limited. I haven't watched any of the debates, Gov. Palin isn't making a big deal out of it either. Its the bane of our existence the media.

I am not politically passionate about anything, which is why I usually stay out of the dog house, b/c I can't contribute much. But the one thing that makes my blood boil, is when people (including people here) especially celebs like Alec Baldwin etc say, like they did the last election, if Bush got President again, they were moving to Canada or TimBukTu. And shock of life, they haven't gone anywhere, imagine that. B/c if they move to another country no one gives a rat's arse about WHO they are and they can't throw around their name along with their political aspirations.
blech - leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

**catland** · 09-04-2008, 03:41 PM

IF we elect someone soley on their personal life and whether or not they have a teenage pregnant daughter, then we get what we deserve. (btw - my mom is a hockey mom of five kids, and thankfully she is nothing like this woman)

No matter your politics, history is being made, making this a very exciting election. McCain's selection of a woman was a brilliantly played chess move - I just wish he had found a different woman, and not someone who comes with her own special prosecutor.

Her politics disturb me. Creationism belongs in the church and not in the schools (unless someone wants to teach a course in comparative religions and discuss several creation theories and myths).

**Pam** · 09-04-2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by lizbud

Sen Biden's son Beau is a Captain in the Delaware National Guard and
his unit has been called up. He leaves for Iraq in October. I'm pretty sure
Biden could make a big deal out of this by speaking publicly about his son
and Military service, but he doesn't.

It has been mentioned and even his son mentioned it at the Democratic Convention when he said he will be away at the time of the election and went on to explain. I think anyone heading to war is to be commended and it doesn't bother me if they mention it. God bless the troops - ALL of them! I think anyone who watched Biden's speech saw that he and his family are very close and his son is one special man.

Let's hope that ALL of our people can come home very soon and stop counting how many times military service is mentioned.

**shais_mom** · 09-04-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Pam

It has been mentioned and even his son mentioned it at the Democratic Convention when he said he will be away at the time of the election and went on to explain. I think anyone heading to war is to be commended and it doesn't bother me if they mention it. God bless the troops - ALL of them! I think anyone who watched Biden's speech saw that he and his family are very close and his son is one special man.

Let's hope that ALL of our people can come home very soon and stop counting how many times military service is mentioned.

well said!

**cassiesmom** · 09-04-2008, 09:21 PM

Before I heard her speak, I was one of many people going, McCain picked who? I was hoping he would have chosen Mitt Romney. I work in a union-organized office where there are a lot of Obama fans. I'm still not sure who to vote for. McCain was looking a little old last night. Palin's point about Obama having written two memoirs, but no major legislation is an interesting one. He hasn't been in the Senate that long and our other senator (Durbin, also a Democrat) has some long coat tails for Obama to latch on to. I just want someone who can get us out of Iraq quickly and without a lot more young soldiers dying or being injured, figure out how to get us off of foreign oil, and improve health care.