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    Dirty laundry

    I too am sick of all the airing of the dirty laundry. It does give you some insight in to what these folks have been doing over the past 20 years. I can honestly say that I have not gotten a DUI or had my daughter get pregnant at age 17.

    My concern is........ that one would hope that our elected officials are a cut above the average citizen. I don't feel that Palin is a cut above at all. I don't think there are too many government officials in the cut above category, to tell you the truth. I have a feeling that "the cut above folks" don't run for office! We are stuck with the people who dare run. Then we get to hear about the short comings. And they seem to be endless.

    I don't feel Palin represents my beliefs and/or standards. Just plain and simple. I don't want Palin or McCain, representing me or my country. I am not in love with Obama and/or Biden, just not embarrassed by them. I trust they will put the best people possible on the staff and in the cabinet and keep their noses clean. I like Michelle Obama and family. I don't know much about Biden's wife and/or his family.

    It's a crap shoot for sure.


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    but at least Palin has some executive experience.
    Ya mean she can take dictation??? Just kidding. I couldn't resist.

    It seems every election has it's share of "skeletons" that seem to appear from nowhere. Politicians should expect to be under the microscope when running for office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    Ya mean she can take dictation??? Just kidding. I couldn't resist.

    It seems every election has it's share of "skeletons" that seem to appear from nowhere. Politicians should expect to be under the microscope when running for office.

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw naked parties!
    LOL, true enough.

    As for your first sentence... Being Govenor of a state is not executive experience?

    But you say the rest like she is whining about the coverage. I have not seen anything that has her complaining. Pundits, sure, but her directly? No. She seems like a tough woman, so I wish they would let her respond. I'd love to see what she has to say. Me thinks it would be the verbal version of flipping the bird. LOL

    If you have something that has her complaing about the coverage directly, please share. I'd truly like to see it.
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    Well, Puckstop, if I didn’t know better, I would think you are the man I married.

    He is also a Libertarian. The best Presidential candidate he ever voted for was Harry Browne.

    He says the current occupants of the White House should be tried for war crimes. One reason he does not tolerate McCain is McCain-Feingold. He agrees with your assessment of Obama. Unlike you though, he doesn’t think much of Palin because she is too socially conservative, and according to articles he’s read, her management style is to bully and demand political loyalty – sort of what we’ve had for far too many years. And she is running with McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Well, Puckstop, if I didn’t know better, I would think you are the man I married.

    He is also a Libertarian. The best Presidential candidate he ever voted for was Harry Browne.

    He says the current occupants of the White House should be tried for war crimes. One reason he does not tolerate McCain is McCain-Feingold. He agrees with your assessment of Obama. Unlike you though, he doesn’t think much of Palin because she is too socially conservative, and according to articles he’s read, her management style is to bully and demand political loyalty – sort of what we’ve had for far too many years. And she is running with McCain.

    Douglas is a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, another lifetime NRA member.
    Well, well... LOL

    I stop short of war crimes. Because as far as I know, it is not YET a crime to be stupid. You will get no arguement from me that the conflict was, especially in the inital aftermath, HORRIBLY mismanaged. Criminially so? Not so sure. Understand that I have real life, face to face exposure to the Islamic Extremeist. They are a threat. But this threat could have been dealt with in MUCH better ways.

    Like I said, I am not 100% TOTAL hard core Libertarian. Mainly because I am a man of the Christian faith and I believe we need a differnt foreign policy than from what the Libertarians believe in.

    A bully? I bet MEN wrote that. LOL But like I said, she is not perfect, but INHO, much better than any other options.

    Then, yes, she is running with McBush. Thats a tough one to swallow, but a little easier than the socialism of Obama.

    Simply put, IMHO, she is the least of the evils and has the outside the beltway upside. Will it stop the nearly inevitable (again, IMHO) revolution? Doubtful. But ya never know.

    I applaude him for his lifetime NRA membership. I am one also, I truly believe in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and the right for ALL humans to have the right to defend themselves from tyranny, no matter what form it takes.
    Last edited by Puckstop31; 09-02-2008 at 09:57 PM. Reason: I forgot something...
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    I agree that Palin's children (or any other candidates' children) should not be a factor in the election.

    And, if it is true that parents cannot be held accountable for the actions of their teenage children, I assume we will not hear anything about Palin's son joining the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I agree that Palin's children (or any other candidates' children) should not be a factor in the election.

    And, if it is true that parents cannot be held accountable for the actions of their teenage children, I assume we will not hear anything about Palin's son joining the military.
    I agree.

    With the caveat that she will easily be able to deflect the concept of, "you would not do this if YOUR son was in the military." Assuming she would be inthe position to take some sort of action.
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    Nope... I don't think she should get credit for her son joining the military. He should receive the credit for that. My point about her being held responsible for her daughter getting pregnant was that I doubt she was egging her on and pushing for this to happen. I doubt she said "Come on honey... go and have sex and get pregnant. it's the right thing to do" I doubt it.

    it was only ten years ago that I was that age and as much as some people would like to believe parents have total control.... at that age they don't. there is nothing a parent can do to stop their son or daughter from having sex if that is something the teen wants to do. short of chaining her to the house. We don't know that she didn't teach her daughter how to protect herself. People who use protection get pregnant all the time. it happens. Is it ideal? Nope.

    the daughter and the boyfriend are stepping up to the responsibility. and their family is supporting them. What more could anyone want? the daughter made a mistake and she is prepared to take responsibility for it. I think that speaks volumes.

    If palin had have thrown her daughter out and disowned her for getting pregnant... now THAT I would have a problem with. they are your children for better or for worse.

    Like my Aunt Nancy says "Kids... sometimes all you can do is stand beside them and support them"




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    A article I found about the Palin "wolf cub" issue.

    http://www.adn.com/wildlife/story/491012.html

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by Puckstop31; 09-02-2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason: My Dyslexia/ADD is kicking in something fierce tonight.
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    One more...

    http://wcbstv.com/campaign08/joe.lie....2.808783.html

    "Punish" him for speaking his mind? Party is more important than policy? Party is more important that what you believe?

    *Yeah, yeah... The R's do the same thing. That is not my point. My point is this is an example of why we need NEW blood. People who are not yet corrupted by the Washington DC mindset. Yeah. McCain is one of those guys... But Palin is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    A article I found about the Palin "wolf cub" issue.

    http://www.adn.com/wildlife/story/491012.html

    Thoughts?
    I'd like to know a few more statistics before I can make any decisions about the article. Grey wolves actually survive most of the year on rodents. In the past, hunters have actually depleted caribou numbers due to over hunting, and blamed it on wolves. I don't know where the numbers are today on caribou and wolves, and really anything.

    I don't like to make any decisions or develop an opinion really until I know all I can know on a subject. I hate it when others jump up too.

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