McCain/Palin ???

[Edwina's Secretary]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

I am surprised that a mother would subject her daughter to the incredible scrutiny - late night tv show jokes and everything else that goes with it by being selected as a candidate for vice president. In this circumstance I would think you would want to protect your daughter from that.

(And before anyone gets all uppity about making jokes about the children a.) I agree but b.) there is reality. Was it Rush Limbaugh who make the joke that the Clintons had a dog in the White House and then put up a photo of Chelsea??)

[Puckstop31]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

I am surprised that a mother would subject her daughter to the incredible scrutiny - late night tv show jokes and everything else that goes with it by being selected as a candidate for vice president. In this circumstance I would think you would want to protect your daughter from that.

Perhaps, and just perhaps as I am not a mind reader... But perhaps she did not want her daughter to live with the burden of knowing that her mother passed on the opportunity of a lifetime because of her. Perhaps her daughter having this child is a blessing to them and to her.

Thats the thing, we don't know. A crying shame that both sides of the aisle are playing it up in the press.

[Pam]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

Aww c'mon Sara, even you know that isn't true. Back when I graduated high school (in 1964 ) we had two KNOWN pregnancies and who knows how many others went off somewhere to have their babies or to kill them. Even Obama took the high road on this, as I expected him too, by saying that his own mother was 18 when she had him. I am sure it was not convenient for her as a teen to have a bi-racial baby either back then. Think of the whole abortion situation that we have now. What if Obama's mother had chosen that route. Who would the Democrats have for a candidate now? Don't get me wrong - I think McCain really blew it with his selection but I applaud Palen's daughter for her decision to keep this baby!

[Edwina's Secretary]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

What's odd is when I read the articles about that school on the East Coast where there was allegedly an outbreak of young girls wanting to get pregnant -- it made such a fuss???

[caseysmom]

Obviously this is a bit of a scandal otherwise it wouldn't be all over the news even in this day and age. Especially when you have taken the moral high road. Do I think its anybodies business, heck no leave the kid alone.

[Pam]

Obviously this is a bit of a scandal otherwise it wouldn't be all over the news even in this day and age. Especially when you have taken the moral high road. Do I think its anybodies business, heck no leave the kid alone.

It's sad that it is even an issue. I couldn't help but think as I watched some of the coverage that this was just childish pure and simple to even mention it.

[caseysmom]

It's sad that it is even an issue. I couldn't help but think as I watched some of the coverage that this was just childish pure and simple to even mention it.

Yes it is definetely below the belt I think children are off limits. I don't think this will hurt her at all, good for her supporting her daughter through thick and thin.

[sparks19]

It's sad that it is even an issue. I couldn't help but think as I watched some of the coverage that this was just childish pure and simple to even mention it.

I agree. this has so little to do with the election itself and the candidates policies etc etc why is it even mentioned?

it could be worse. She could be out running around doing drugs and get involved in criminal activities. So she had sex and got pregnant... it happens. and she is stepping up and taking responsibility and it sounds like the father of this child is doing the same.

[RICHARD]

It's sad that it is even an issue. :

It cyclic!

It was an issue that needed to be 'taken care of''.
Then it became a non-issue for a while-Now it's back in the news again.

It's glamorized when it's a teen star and it's condemned when it's happens in a political family. SP's daughter isn't a political figure or media figure.


Anyway, you have to blame it on the schools for letting the boys swim in the same pool as the girls.

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[Pam]

I also heard this morning (I think it was on Good Morning America) that Palen's husband had a DUI about 20 years ago. Now that is "up to date Breaking Headline News!" Honestly, they are turning over every rock they can find to the point of being absolutely ridiculous!

[Lady's Human]

The story from Gloucester about the girls getting pregnant made news because it was a pact between several high school aged girls to purposefully get pregnant. The school administration supposedly knew about it, and the reason it made national media was because the school admins did nothing about it.

Teen pregnancy has and will always be around, what differs is in how it is handled.

There is an article in Time about how the residents of Wasalia, AK view the "problem", and in their view it's a) not a big deal, and b) none of anyone else's damned business.

[sparks19]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

it certainly is... we were just talking about this on another pet forum. How they wouldn't even show desi and Lucy sitting in bed as a married couple. My mom told me about how "Wake up little Susie" was banned from radio play because it implied that the girl and the guy spent the night together.

Now we have movies about teen pregnancy... bordering on comedies. songs talk about sex all the time, we have movies with full frontal nudity that are not considered pornography and it's not unusual to see teens caught in bed together on TV shows.

Very different world.

[Pam]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

Yes, one of the girls that got pregnant in my high school was one of my very best friends! It totally blew me away. She carried the baby almost to the end of the school year and I remember many mornings seeing her head off to the ladies room with morning sickness. It was a hard time back then, but not now at all. As far as sparing embarrassment within one's family - when you decide to run for office your life becomes an open book. You either take the heat or get out of the kitchen.

[sparks19]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

I am surprised that a mother would subject her daughter to the incredible scrutiny - late night tv show jokes and everything else that goes with it by being selected as a candidate for vice president. In this circumstance I would think you would want to protect your daughter from that.

(And before anyone gets all uppity about making jokes about the children a.) I agree but b.) there is reality. Was it Rush Limbaugh who make the joke that the Clintons had a dog in the White House and then put up a photo of Chelsea??)

To be honest... teen pregnancies are becoming more and more common (or at least aren't hidden from the world) and carry less stigma as time goes on. Not saying I agree with teen pregnancy. But it's definitely not like it used to be. many of these girls attend school right up until the birth and in a lot of places this is a common sight to see. For some odd reason... some teens actually strive to acheive this.

It's not an ideal situation... but nothing to be embarassed about IMO. this is not a time to be embarassed.. this is a time to step up and handle your responsibility no matter what anyone says.