Politics and religion.

[lizbud]

Pam, I had not heard of Rick Warren before this event, but I was pleasantly
surprised. It was meant to be a conversation on religious values & touched
on some heated moral questions that face this country today. It was very
well done & now I'm glad I didn't blow it off & not watch.

I thought Obama did a good job of talking about his personal convictions
and how Christian teachings influence his world view. McCain, on the other
hand, tended to slip off message & lapse into the old political stump speaches
he perfers to give. All in all, it was helpful & sometimes revealing to see how
they think.

[Pam]

I thought Obama did a good job of talking about his personal convictions
and how Christian teachings influence his world view.

One of them being that it is OK to kill babies in the womb? How does he reconcile this with "his Christianity?" Well, I guess it's OK if one chooses to make up their own Christianity as they go along. I think he'd do well to do some reading in *the Book* he says influences his thinking. He didn't get that world view from that Book.

[lizbud]

One of them being that it is OK to kill babies in the womb? How does he reconcile this with "his Christianity?" Well, I guess it's OK if one chooses to make up their own Christianity as they go along. I think he'd do well to do some reading in *the Book* he says influences his thinking. He didn't get that world view from that Book.

Oh gosh Pam, you & I would never agree on the pro choice/pro life
argument. I believe I am a Christian in good standing, but certainly
believe each and every woman should be able to have the right to
make this choice for themselves.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I am a Christian too. I too believe abortion is not the answer. But I also know that if a woman really wants an abortion, she will get one; no matter if it's legal or not. Sometimes going to places that are unsanitary and dangerous.

When you hear of babies being thrown in trash cans and killed by their mothers that's a big hint something is not right in our society. Is it better for a little one to never draw a breath or be born and tortured to death?

A woman who has an abortion has to live with what she has done her entire life and, I believe, for eternity.

My solution is education. I don't mean handing out condoms either. I'd go to the grade schools and get the girls that are 8 or 9 and start teaching them what happens during abortions. Teach them that their actions have coinsequences and show them what those may be.

I'd show films and show the process and what happens to the babies. I'd probably have the kids so scared they wouldn't want sex until menopause. I'd also teach them that if they should get pregnant, they have options like giving the baby up and who to talk to.

I'd also teach them that life is precious and sacred and should not be ended lightly.

You need to teach the girls early because they are getting into trouble early. I myself, could have been a mother at 10 years old. Back then though, we didn't even know what sex was at that age.

We have become a throw away society and have lost touch with feeling for others. Somehow we forget that what we do can hurt other people. (even unborn people)

[caseysmom]

I don't believe someone who is pro choice necessarily would choose to have an abortion or thinks it is okay, they just want the choice for women.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I ask this question -- not to start anything but because I want to understand.

How is it that abortion is against the Bible, but killing people after they are born isn't?

Like the death sentence.
Especially when you think how many have been on death row and then, through DNA or the like be found not to be responsible for the crime for which they were sentenced? It appears our (any for that matter) system of justice is not infallible. Is it okay to kill someone we think is guilty? What if we are wrong?

And war.
We don't like the government of a country. In the case of Iraq, how many hundreds of thousands of people have been killed -- women, children, babies, non-combatants of all kinds? That happens in war. Killing. Look at what is going on in Georgia.

If someone is pro-life, don't they have to be against war and the death sentence?

[caseysmom]

I ask this question -- not to start anything but because I want to understand.

How is it that abortion is against the Bible, but killing people after they are born isn't?

Like the death sentence.
Especially when you think how many have been on death row and then, through DNA or the like be found not to be responsible for the crime for which they were sentenced? It appears our (any for that matter) system of justice is not infallible. Is it okay to kill someone we think is guilty? What if we are wrong?

And war.
We don't like the government of a country. In the case of Iraq, how many hundreds of thousands of people have been killed -- women, children, babies, non-combatants of all kinds? That happens in war. Killing. Look at what is going on in Georgia.

If someone is pro-life, don't they have to be against war and the death sentence?

Good points!