Politics and religion.

**RICHARD** · 08-08-2008, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Wrong thread RICHARD. There is one about the execution elsewhere. Try and stay on topic!

Once upon a time there was a Asian restaurant in So Cal named Sam Dang Ting's.
A writer for the Auto Club newsletter, who wrote about the eatery asked the owner about the name of the establishment, and what it meant, the owner told him that it meant the Sam Dang Ting in English.

Politician?
Criminal?

Sam Dang Ting!

**lizbud** · 08-14-2008, 05:12 PM

The Obama plane problem I posted about last month was a lot more serious
than officials made known at the time. Wow, that would have changed
everything.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Politi...5581453&page=1

**RICHARD** · 08-17-2008, 01:02 AM

You'd think that both these idiots would have learned thier lessons about talking to 'men of the cloth'.

Between the stuttering, the amused look on the codger's face and the smarmy pastor's "slickness" I lost interest rather quickly.

Leave it to some self proclaimed religious Cuckoo Clock to put together a self-promoting event at his own 'church'.

Morons.

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LOL, did anyone ever find out about the idiots who interrupted the BO speecha a few weeks ago?

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Betcha BO had the windows open on the plane and his ears caught the wind....emergency? I should say so!

**Pam** · 08-17-2008, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Leave it to some self proclaimed religious Cuckoo Clock to put together a self-promoting event at his own 'church'.

Morons.

I'm sorry you feel this way Richard. I have read Rick Warren's book and it gives one plenty of food for thought as to what is important in life and why we are here in the first place. He is a gifted writer and teacher and he and his wife are doing good things for children who have become orphans through HIV/AIDS in Africa. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=3983833&page=2

I am having trouble with your description of him as a *righteous cuckoo clock.* I guess only in the next life will we able to see who was righteous and who was not. "Judge not lest ye be judged."

I agree that there are many TV preachers today who have no message other than "let's all feel good and get rich." Rick Warren is not one of them. The Evangelical vote is important to both sides so I believe it was important for these two men to open up as to where they stand on some issues that may not seems important to others but are to evangelicals. It was a more personal two hours than we will see in the upcoming debates, and I will be watching those as well.

**lizbud** · 08-17-2008, 10:04 AM

Pam, I had not heard of Rick Warren before this event, but I was pleasantly
surprised. It was meant to be a conversation on religious values & touched
on some heated moral questions that face this country today. It was very
well done & now I'm glad I didn't blow it off & not watch.

I thought Obama did a good job of talking about his personal convictions
and how Christian teachings influence his world view. McCain, on the other
hand, tended to slip off message & lapse into the old political stump speaches
he perfers to give. All in all, it was helpful & sometimes revealing to see how
they think.

**Pam** · 08-17-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by lizbud

I thought Obama did a good job of talking about his personal convictions
and how Christian teachings influence his world view.

One of them being that it is OK to kill babies in the womb? How does he reconcile this with "his Christianity?" Well, I guess it's OK if one chooses to make up their own Christianity as they go along. I think he'd do well to do some reading in *the Book* he says influences his thinking. He didn't get that world view from that Book.

**lizbud** · 08-17-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Pam

One of them being that it is OK to kill babies in the womb? How does he reconcile this with "his Christianity?" Well, I guess it's OK if one chooses to make up their own Christianity as they go along. I think he'd do well to do some reading in *the Book* he says influences his thinking. He didn't get that world view from that Book.

Oh gosh Pam, you & I would never agree on the pro choice/pro life
argument. I believe I am a Christian in good standing, but certainly
believe each and every woman should be able to have the right to
make this choice for themselves.

**RICHARD** · 08-17-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

I'm sorry you feel this way Richard.

Here in Cah Lee fuh nee ah you have about 13,000 different religions.

After a while you hear of them all and they still don't make any sense at alll-The Fractured Blessed Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ Community Outreach and Botica (Mexican Herbal Pharmacy).

On the 4800 block of Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood there are three different churches within spitting distance of each other. The Scientologist HQ, the Self Realization Church and another church that I never saw opened during seven years of walking by it almost every day.

In a two mile radius there were about 20 different churches that worshipped some sacred body part, saint, god, brain function or miraculous miracle.

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I had never heard of Warren before and just thought he was another run of the mill 'pastor'. I should have known something was up when there was no mention of time shares at the religious amusement park he was building!