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    Yes, many cats live long happy lives having to have their bladder manually expressed, however I'm unsure about how to manually make her defecate, or if that is even possible... as of now, she is so impacted that even if she wanted to go it will probably be so painful for her... the vet did empty her bladder today, when I checked her a few hours ago there were claw marks in the litter box where it appeared she TRIED to go but didn't...

    If its a matter of having to manually express her bladder for the remainder of her life or not, I'm not sure if that's something my inlaws are able to take on to be honest... they aren't heartless people, their lives are just so busy right now running their own business. I live here now but I'm at school nine hours out of the day, but I won't always live with them to do it, you know?

    I guess we will just have to see how she progresses and see what the vet has to say on Wednesday.

    Thank you all so much for your thoughts and prayers, they mean SO much to us right now!!!

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    I pray Emma makes some progress, and that the vet can un-impact her on Wednesday to give her more comfort.

    There are people that will take on a special needs pet - but let's wait and see what the vet says.

    Come on, Emma - surprise everyone!
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    I'm so sorry to hear this. Emma will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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    Emma reminds me so much of my RB Brando. I really hope she manages to pull through - cats are resiliant animals and can surprise us all! It sounds as if she is really trying hard to live. I'll keep her in my thoughts.

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    My first rescue, RB Peeka, had injuries one of which made necessary the amputation of her tail. There was barely a stub there and my vet feared that she wouldn't be able to urinate or defecate on her own but she was able to, so hold on to that hope. She lived to be 14 so keep the faith. Our prayers are w/you and Emma.
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    We are so sorry too hear, The CREW is sending all our prayers that Emma will recover.
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    Although I haven't had a chance to respond here, Emma has been very close in my thoughts all day, and prayers have been sent out for her recovery.

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    I am so sorry to read about Emma!!! Many prayers heading her way, and that all goes well on Wednesday!!!
    Nine is Fine!!

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    I would like to thank you all so very much... she still has not gone on her own, but she has tried to, which to me speaks volumes. That means she can feel that she has to go, she just can't...

    I know sometimes when animals go through trauma like this they can lose certain functions but can regain them back later, sometimes it takes days to weeks. The Dr was actually surprised when they brought her in yesterday that she WAS up and walking around, despite her injuries. So they do have high hopes still!

    Again, thank you all so much, it means a lot.

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    Maybe she WILL heal yet!

    You're able to express her bladder, right?

    What about her intestine?

    I hope the vet gives her a little more time when he sees her tomorrow. And I hope he can clear her bowel and let it rest a bit.

    She is TRYING to go! What a girl...if she can feel she has to, then maybe the rest of the system just needs a bit more healing.

    BIG PT PRAYERS for EMMA!
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    whyever would you have to euthanize her?????

    i'm extrememly confused here--i know people who regularly express bowels and bladders for their pets, and have done so for years.

    it's terrible that she has suffered this trauma--yet another story to remind us all that it is NOT safe to let our cat children outdoors unless they are in an enclosed area, because it really is NOT safe out there--but to compound it by killing her?

    if the vet involved can't teach you how to express her, you might want to find one who can! and if you're learning how to do the urinary bladder in school, read ahead a few chapters and you might find the next set of instructions.

    or go to HP and ask the people who do this every day. HELP HER, for heaven's sake, don't abandon her again!


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    If nothing else, Jessika, maybe HP can find her a home. Maybe someone in your vet school can take her. I know your relatives work a lot...maybe it's time for them to slow down.

    Remember the one cat who took a year to recover...euthanasia is not the answer here.

    I know you are in the middle and Emma is not your cat. But please check up with your schoomates, even the vet that is treating Emma, and Handicapped Pets.

    HUGS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    If nothing else, Jessika, maybe HP can find her a home. Maybe someone in your vet school can take her. I know your relatives work a lot...maybe it's time for them to slow down.

    Remember the one cat who took a year to recover...euthanasia is not the answer here.

    I know you are in the middle and Emma is not your cat. But please check up with your schoomates, even the vet that is treating Emma, and Handicapped Pets.

    HUGS!
    Catty has EXCELLENT ideas here!! Spinal cord injury generally isn't one of the more expensive disabilities; expressing is FREE!!!!! Diapers are cheap and can be free from Freecycle, yard sales, etc. Frankly, I think they need another vet who's more willing to work with them; expressing takes a little time and practice to learn, although I didn't find vet demos helpful. Some people do, but I learned more from HP and the other "plain old people" who also had to learn it. Expressing isn't hard, IMO, but practice teaches you how to tiptoe-through-the-innards to find the bladder (a waterballoon I always found right between Buddy's hips. Ace doesn't need expressing, despite his SCI).

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    Prayers sent for Emma.

    Come on little girl.... you can do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenHouseCats View Post
    i'm extrememly confused here--i know people who regularly express bowels and bladders for their pets, and have done so for years.

    it's terrible that she has suffered this trauma--yet another story to remind us all that it is NOT safe to let our cat children outdoors unless they are in an enclosed area, because it really is NOT safe out there--but to compound it by killing her?

    if the vet involved can't teach you how to express her, you might want to find one who can! and if you're learning how to do the urinary bladder in school, read ahead a few chapters and you might find the next set of instructions.

    or go to HP and ask the people who do this every day. HELP HER, for heaven's sake, don't abandon her again!


    MC
    Abandon her again? When have any of us ever abandoned her???

    It's not a matter of being able to manually express them or not, she has other medical problems that go along with the trauma of being hit by a car. Maybe she isn't going because she lost the nerve function, maybe she isn't going because it hurts, maybe she isn't going because it's blocked... they don't know...

    I've talked to my MIL about manually expressing her and that many cats live long, healthy lives by having to do that. But the vet doesn't feel this would be a viable option for her longterm health and longevity.

    Sadly, he is giving her until Monday and if she doesn't improve by then, I actually don't know what's going to happen.

    But I really don't think you think I or anyone else involved on this side of Emma's care thinks that we aren't doing all we can, but unfortunately money IS a factor in this; they aren't exactly made of money, they've struggled their whole lives, but they never hesitate to give emergency medical care to ANY of their animals if they need it... and in my opinion, in any case with any person, if the animal is going to suffer because a family can't afford necessary treatment to make the animal better, I would rather it be euthanized than subjected to a life of pain.

    Please all of you understand, I'm not the one calling the shots here, and my in-laws are trusting their vet's opinions and advice when it comes to this situation. I really hope this vet will do all he can with what he has, but unfortunately the sky ISN'T the limit here. I keep bringing up manual expression, but I am obviously not a vet, and not that my MIL doesn't trust me or value my opinion, the vet DID go to school a bit longer and he may know something that I don't about her condition.

    You've all been to the vet before when your pet is sick or injured and the vet is yammering on about what's going on, what happened, etc etc, but you don't hear every single word - your focus is on your pet and getting it better. So when you go home and people ask you what's wrong, you give them the synopsis and may leave out some information. I'm sure that's what's happening in this case. Unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to go with them to the vet since I leave for school at 7am and oftentimes do not get home until after 4pm; the vet office closes either by then or close to 5. I am not sure if it is open on weekends, I will have to ask her and maybe I will go with them next time and get more detailed information and ask questions that she may not have thought to ask. But with my school schedule it's really, really hard...

    For now, all that I ask is that you still keep her in your thoughts, and please know that I'm trying to get all the information I can and give all the help I can for her...

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