French Students murdered in a vicious attack

**Medusa** · 07-07-2008, 11:15 AM

It's the words "knife and gang culture" that jumped out at me. It's difficult to even fathom such a thing.

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 07-07-2008, 11:19 AM

It's difficult to even fathom such a thing

Sadly not

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1626691.ece

**RICHARD** · 07-08-2008, 02:33 AM

Question, What is an e-fit?

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I posted about the man who killed/injured 21 people in Japan with a car, then a knife.

The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

Scary, really scary!

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 07-08-2008, 05:16 AM

What is an e-fit?

Its a computer generated likeness of the person believed to have committed the crime

**Medusa** · 07-08-2008, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Question, What is an e-fit?

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I posted about the man who killed/injured 21 people in Japan with a car, then a knife.

The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

Scary, really scary!

Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 07-08-2008, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Medusa

Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.

IMO we all have the ability to kill but clearly it takes something to push a person over the edge to actually carry it out whether its a personal vendetta or a random act of violence. The mind of a killer must be a very scary place indeed

**RICHARD** · 07-08-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Medusa

Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.

If you disrupt class again, you are going to the dean's office......

Both.

This is a case where I think the guy went in to rob the kids-something ticked him off and he went nuts.

I figure there comes a point where you have to realize your victim cannot defend themselves and there must be some kind of internal voice that tell you to stop?

I like to believe that everyone knows right from wrong and there is a switch inside a person's head that let's them know that if they continue any activity
they will be penalized for it. I can see people getting angry and then going nuts.....But, don't you think it's crazy to go to someone's house and rip them off?

**Medusa** · 07-08-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

But, don't you think it's crazy to go to someone's house and rip them off?

I was w/ya until that line. No, I don't think that's crazy, I think it's arrogant and criminally self-entitled. It's doubtful that they're thinking of consequences but that doesn't make them crazy, just cock sure that they'll probably get away w/it and that they're entitled to it for whatever reason. But everything else you said, I agree with.

**jennielynn1970** · 07-08-2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Question, What is an e-fit?

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The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

Scary, really scary!

I was thinking along the same lines with this.

First, that Mexico would be such a different culture, compared to England (proximity to France and all).

Secondly, wondering whether they had any run ins with gangs or people who were trying to take advantage of the situation of them not being from the area.

The fact that stabbing is such a personal attack. While we do have the majority of crimes being gun violence in the states (we have a horrific gang problem in Allentown, Easton, and Bethlehem. Seems we get the little offshoots of the NYC gangs like Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings amongst other gangs, locating here), when you see violence against a relative, friend, spouse etc.. it's normally something with a knife and hands on, not a gun.

I was also wondering what the heck an e-fit was. Never heard of that before! Sounds like a new kind of car, lol.

**RICHARD** · 07-08-2008, 08:25 PM

Now, if i could only spell "challenging"!

The bravado and self entitlement is a good description.

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I just think that anyone who breaks a law like theft, burglary or any kind of physical violence is crazy. With few exceptions, most people know what is against the law and I think that knowing and going against them, a person has to be a little off base.