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    What does she mean nothing prepared him for London? I've never been there, but I didn't think it was supposed to be so bad. Is it really that horrible there?
    It's not limited to London. So far this year we've had 18 teenagers stabbed to death - the knife culture has got seriously out of hand

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    Man hands himself in over French student killings in London

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    Man hands himself in over French student killings in London

    Mon Jul 7, 7:39 AM

    LONDON (AFP) - A man turned himself in to police in London on Monday in connection with the brutal murder of two French students and was later taken to hospital.


    Gabriel Ferez and Laurent Bonomo, both 23, were killed on June 29. Their bound and battered bodies were found in Bonomo's burnt-out flat in southeast London. They had been repeatedly knifed in the head, neck, torso and back.

    "A 33-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the murders of Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez in Sterling Gardens," a police statement said. "The man handed himself in at a south London police station early this morning."

    The man was later taken to hospital, police said, but declined to comment further.

    Bonomo had been stabbed nearly 200 times while Ferez suffered around 50 wounds in a prolonged ordeal, unidentified police sources quoted by the domestic Press Association news agency said.

    An accelerant was used to start the fire after the students were killed.

    On Sunday, police issued an e-fit of a man they said was seen running away from the scene in New Cross, a tough residential area.

    Bereaved parents Olivier and Francoise Ferez had earlier pleaded for the killer or killers to come forward.

    "You will not be able to live in hiding forever," they said in a statement.

    "You may be scared and feel like a coward, but you must recognise this terrible mistake you made. Rest assured that we will not leave you in peace."

    The only other person held in connection with the case, a 21-year-old man arrested on Saturday, was released the following day.

    Bonomo and Ferez were studying biochemistry at London's prestigious Imperial College, on an exchange programme from their univeristy in Clermont-Ferrand, central France.

    Detectives were following up dozens of new leads after appealing for information at the scene late Sunday.

    Officers stopped cars and members of the public in New Cross to hand out leaflets and the e-fit.

    One theory is that the deaths were linked to a burglary at the ground floor flat on June 23, in which a laptop was taken.

    Police believe two Sony PSP game consoles have since gone too and the victims' mobile phones and bank cards are missing. Detectives are in touch with French banks to see if the cards had been used since the attack.

    The police said officers were looking at forensic material from the June 23 burglary, adding that there was no evidence that flat keys had been taken.

    The students had been due to return to Clermont-Ferrand later this month.

    The deaths coincided with a time of growing concern about knife and gang culture in London. Eighteen youths have died in violent circumstances so far this year in the British capital.
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    It's the words "knife and gang culture" that jumped out at me. It's difficult to even fathom such a thing.
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    It's difficult to even fathom such a thing
    Sadly not

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    Question, What is an e-fit?


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    I posted about the man who killed/injured 21 people in Japan with a car, then a knife.

    The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

    I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

    We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

    It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
    People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

    Scary, really scary!

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    What is an e-fit?
    Its a computer generated likeness of the person believed to have committed the crime
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Question, What is an e-fit?


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    I posted about the man who killed/injured 21 people in Japan with a car, then a knife.

    The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

    I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

    We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

    It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
    People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

    Scary, really scary!
    Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.
    IMO we all have the ability to kill but clearly it takes something to push a person over the edge to actually carry it out whether its a personal vendetta or a random act of violence. The mind of a killer must be a very scary place indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Does this fit in w/your theory that the persons who committed this crime must be crazy? Or just angry? Or both? I'm not trying to be argumentative here or start something. I just would like to know.
    If you disrupt class again, you are going to the dean's office......

    Both.

    This is a case where I think the guy went in to rob the kids-something ticked him off and he went nuts.

    I figure there comes a point where you have to realize your victim cannot defend themselves and there must be some kind of internal voice that tell you to stop?

    I like to believe that everyone knows right from wrong and there is a switch inside a person's head that let's them know that if they continue any activity
    they will be penalized for it. I can see people getting angry and then going nuts.....But, don't you think it's crazy to go to someone's house and rip them off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Question, What is an e-fit?

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    The U.S. has always been known for it's 'gun culture' and it's very surprising to see countries with gun laws as tight as Japan and England having problems with knife crimes.

    I would figure Mexico as being more 'challeging' for travelers than England. Language, food and culture.

    We don't know if the young men had any run-ins or problems with any other people or gangs in the area.

    It is a sad story and all the more scary when you think about the crime itself.
    People who profile murders categorize stabbings as 'personal type" of crimes. You have to be close to a person to stab them. That's pretty creepy because of the proximity of the people involved and what you have to do to stab someone 250 times.

    Scary, really scary!
    I was thinking along the same lines with this.

    First, that Mexico would be such a different culture, compared to England (proximity to France and all).

    Secondly, wondering whether they had any run ins with gangs or people who were trying to take advantage of the situation of them not being from the area.

    The fact that stabbing is such a personal attack. While we do have the majority of crimes being gun violence in the states (we have a horrific gang problem in Allentown, Easton, and Bethlehem. Seems we get the little offshoots of the NYC gangs like Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings amongst other gangs, locating here), when you see violence against a relative, friend, spouse etc.. it's normally something with a knife and hands on, not a gun.


    I was also wondering what the heck an e-fit was. Never heard of that before! Sounds like a new kind of car, lol.

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    Now, if i could only spell "challenging"!

    The bravado and self entitlement is a good description.

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    I just think that anyone who breaks a law like theft, burglary or any kind of physical violence is crazy. With few exceptions, most people know what is against the law and I think that knowing and going against them, a person has to be a little off base.

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    OMG that is so so Horrible.. I cant even pic of all the stab wounds.. RIP Gents.. Prayers to the Family..

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