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  1. #1
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    I was just thinking about Emerald and Tiger this morning and hoping they were all doing well! I'm so sorry to hear he's still struggling! I just said a prayer!

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    I wish so much there was some advice I could give. I think of Tiger often and hope something will help him.

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    Humans can take cough syrup with an expectorant, which gets the gunk out...don't know what there is for cats...

    Stepronin (SPN): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8177972

    http://compepid.tuskegee.edu/syllabi.../chapter3.html
    3.26 Mucokinetic Therapy (NT)

    * Mucokineses achieved by:
    o - Thinning Viscous Secretions
    o - Improving ciliary activity
    o - Improving air way mechanics
    o - Water most valable Agents
    + (a). Mist (steam)
    + (b). Vapor (aerosols) Mouth
    # Caution - Bronchospasm with (a) & (b).
    o Agents - water, Saline. 2% Propylent glycol 2 ml
    o - Acetylcysteine - Breaks mucoprotein mol. 2 to 5 ml, 10% Sol for nembulization
    o - Sod. Bicarb 2.5% for nembulization natural proteases, Adhesiveness Resp. secretion by osmotic effect
    o - Ethanol - Surface tension of Resp. T.
    o - Eucalyptus, menthol and camphor - ?

    3.27 Oral Mudcokinetic Agents (Expectorants)

    Reflex stimulation of vagal efferents to Bronchial gland through gastric mucosa.

    * - Oral W.K. Salt sol. - Amm. bicarb
    * - Amm. chloride, KI, Sod. bicarbm NaCL
    * - Volatile oil
    * - Phenolic Compounds - Creosol, G. Guaiacolate.

    3.28 Aerosol Therapy

    * - Suspension of a liquid as fine particles dispersed in a gas. Idea particle size 2-4 u
    * - A plastic bag tapped to the neck and a nubulizer attached at one cut corner

    3.31 Decongestant Therapy

    * When specific etio. lacking
    * Antihistamines - chlorpheniramine
    * Alpha adrenergic sympathomimetics
    * Cause vasoconstriction. Rebound congestion?
    * e.g. Phenylephrine, phenylpropanolamine

    3.46 Pneumonia - Inflam. of Lung

    * Classify - Broncho. Lobar., Intgerstitial, Br. Vascular, Thromboemoblic,
    * Granulomatous, Atelectasis
    * Etiopath - Physical, chemical, biological agents
    * damage resp. mucosa, Inflam, reduced cilliary activity, fluid accumulation, Pneumonia
    o - Ecoli, Pseudo, Pasteu. Proteus, Strep, Staph
    * Bordetella. Virus, Fungal.
    * Parasitic - A. Abstrusus, P. Kellicott
    * Signs - Anorexia, depression, dehydration, fever
    * Prod. cough, Rhinitis, Sinusitis, Conjectivitis, moist roles on Auscultation. Dyspnea, activity.
    * Dx - MDB, Leukocytosis, "Stress response" degenerative left shift. Metabolic and Resp. acidosis. x-ray-alveolar pattern
    o - Culture & Sensitivity through Bronchial wash or Percutaneous route
    * Rx - Same as in chr. Bronchitis, AB. through clinical recovery Anthilminitics

    3.43.2 Chronic Bronchitis

    * Etio - Viral, Bact, Allergy, Mycoses, neoplasia, C.V.
    * Signs - More common in > 4 yrs. Persistant Harsh cough with retching
    o - Productive moist. Moist rales on Ausc.
    * Dx - MDB., x-ray, cBC, - "Stress". Bronchoscopy
    * Cytology, culture
    * Rx - Control/Cure - AB, Bronchodilators, expect.
    * Antitussive Prednisilone 0.5 mg/lb/day
    o - TLC, Humidification, Hembulization.
    o - Treat the cause


    Lara, the above page also mentions steaming as good. Is there a med the vet could give Tiger to inhale in the vaporizer? Camphor and menthol is mentioned also, but check and see if it's ok.

    Your vet may be able to translate the above.

    HUGS!
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    Back in February, our soon to be 16 yr old Norton, had a terrible URI. I used the vaporizor, but I also mixed up GOLD SEAL Elixir(available at health food shops). I took several dops of the exilir and put it into about 30cc's of normal saline. And with the help of an army, Barry and I put 2 drops in each nostril several times a day. The gold seal helps in relieving the congestion and reduces the inflamation(sp) of the mucos membranes. Maybe that will help your boy!!! Sending prayers along, too.....

    PS: If you can get a copy of Anitra Frazier"s the " New Natural Cat " this info is in there!!!
    Nine is Fine!!

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    Prayers for Tiger from RI!
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    I AM GETTING A BOOK ON HERBAL REMEDIES FOR MICHAEL AND BO BO, AND ONE FOR SORE TEETH FOR JJJ3 MONDAY.
    IF I SEE ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP TIGER I WOULD BE GLAD TO PASS IT ON, ALONG WITH OUR PRAYERS FOR YOUR DEAR FRIENDS RECOVERY.
    THE RAINBOW BRIDGE FOUND HOTEL ANGELS HAVE A NEW FRIEND IN CORINNA.


    ALMOND ROCCA BATON AND ELLIE ANGELS ARE GUARDIANS TO ETERNAL KITTENS ROCC-EL AND T TEEN ANGEL, ALMOND ROCA , VLAD , PAWLEE , SPRITE. LITTLE HEX, OSIRIS AND ANNIE ANGELS.
    EBONY BEAU TUBSTER AND PEACHES BW SPIKE & SMOKEY


    NOW PRECIOUS AND SAM ARE TOGETHER WITH ETERNAL KITTENS SAMMY ,PRESLEY, SYLVESTER AND SCRATCHY JR , MIGHTY MARINA, COSMIC CARMEN, SAMSON ,UNDER KITTY AND SUNKIST AUTUMN & PUMPKIN.
    MIA AND ORANGE BLOSSOM ANGELS HAVE ADOPTED TUXIE , TROOPER , SONGBIRD AND LITTLE BITTY KITTIES MIA-MI BLOSSOMER, TUXEDO AND DASH AS THIER ETERNAL KITTENS.
    PRINCESS JOSEPH AND MICHAEL ARE CELEBRATING 19 YEARS AS LUCKY FOUND CATS

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