Nathan 2

[Catty1]

Surely this can be appealed???? WHY would Charles' lawyer agree?

Sure, it's fine to give a person a chance - but NOT with the history Stephanie has. ONE VISIT and she could run off with him.

This is a head-shaker! I hope Charles and his lawyer have a good talk.

Wish there was a way to put a tracking bracelet on Nathan....omg...

Do you know any neighbours who could keep an eye out for him?

This just SUCKS. I hope something changes soon!

[sumbirdy]

Surely this can be appealed???? WHY would Charles' lawyer agree?

Sure, it's fine to give a person a chance - but NOT with the history Stephanie has. ONE VISIT and she could run off with him.

This is a head-shaker! I hope Charles and his lawyer have a good talk.

Wish there was a way to put a tracking bracelet on Nathan....omg...

Do you know any neighbours who could keep an eye out for him?

This just SUCKS. I hope something changes soon!

It can be appealed if Nathan seems disturbed after the visit. We're supposed to take pictures before he goes and after he comes back. If he has night mares we're supposed to right it down, and tell Charles' lawyer. But this is just the way our area works. They're not in it for the kids, and this place is a little crooked. According to mom, at the court house Stephanie was sticky-sweet. It all makes me sick.

[jennielynn1970]

Wow... I can't believe she got unsupervised visits! If Charles' lawyer agreed to it, wouldn't that be because Charles also agreed to it?? I'm just inquiring, because I thought a lawyer was there to speak for the person, not against them.

I really hope things go ok. I would be so worried, just as you are.

Sometimes I have no idea what the child welfare systems is doing in this country, let alone others. "Let's give the child abuser the chance to abuse again." That always make sense...

You and Nathan, and your family, will be in my thoughts and prayers.

[sumbirdy]

Wow... I can't believe she got unsupervised visits! If Charles' lawyer agreed to it, wouldn't that be because Charles also agreed to it?? I'm just inquiring, because I thought a lawyer was there to speak for the person, not against them.


Sometimes I have no idea what the child welfare systems is doing in this country, let alone others. "Let's give the child abuser the chance to abuse again." That always make sense...

That's what I thought too, but Charles didn't agree to that! I don't know...things seem a little screwy.

[Catty1]

You know, I just thought....she may not even show up, or show up really late...she's done that before.

It is a really stupid way for the court to 'call her bluff', but maybe they are doing that.

All she has to do is be LATE - and that will show how much the visits mean to her.

(Get a before and after pic of her too - with and without Nathan )

[sumbirdy]

You know, I just thought....she may not even show up, or show up really late...she's done that before.

It is a really stupid way for the court to 'call her bluff', but maybe they are doing that.

All she has to do is be LATE - and that will show how much the visits mean to her.

(Get a before and after pic of her too - with and without Nathan )

I think she'll be on her best behavior though. Apparantly her lawyer found legitamate excuses for her not showing up all those times. This week she has to have him back by 4, if she doesn't show by 4:01 we're calling the cops (suggested by the lawyer) Next week she takes him breathing stuff-and get this-he has to have it at 4, she has to bring him back at 5, she lives almost an hour away from us, it takes 20-25 minutes to fully give him his medicine. If she comes back on time she either a) didn't give him his medicine (or didn't give him all of it) or b) she didn't drive the speed limit to our house. And if she's late bringing him back, same thing, call the cops. It's something she should have considered if she was such a good mom.

[jennielynn1970]

This sounds horrible, adn I'm not sure it's even allowed, but is there any way to put some kind of nanny cam (tiny) on him? Or some kind of GPS locater thing, so that if something were to go awry, there would be a way to track him. I just don't like the gut feeling about this woman... If there is anything legal like that that you can hide easily, but to keep him safe, I'd see what is out there.

[sumbirdy]

Well things went okay today (thank God) She showed up late, she was supposed to be here at 12 and she showed up at 1:30 so she skipped his breathing meds instruction that we were supposed to give her. She did bring him back by 4 though which was a relief. Since she didn't get instructed on how to give him his meds she will be showing up at 12 and bringing him back (hopefully) at 4. We are still looking into a tracking device though. Just because she brought him back this time doesn't mean we can trust her to do it again. I think she'll be on her best behavior until the court date though.

[Catty1]

*whew* Good news.

So - do these visits go on for a little while until the actual court divorce proceeding?

I think you said you have to keep track on whether she is late or on time?

HUGS and I hope he continues to be safe. If ANYTHING happened to him - even not her fault - she'd be blamed and questioned, the first suspect. I hope her lawyer gave her a good talk.

Prayers that Nathan continues to be safe. Was he ok when she came to get him?

{{{{hugs}}}}

[sumbirdy]

Nathan is 22 months!

[sumbirdy]

Well, it's 3:15 and she never showed up. It would be a little late to show up now. She wouldn't have time to take him anywhere before she had to be back at 4. According to my parents and Charles at the pre-trial, her lawyer stressed to her that she NEEDS to come to these and that the Judge wasn't going to accept any more excuses. But I'm not holding on to that though. It seems like through this whole thing, since last July, Stephanie's been able to get away with everything. But I really hope this counts against her.

[sumbirdy]

For Stephanie's extra day, yesterday we had a birthday party for Nathan at a local park. Me, mom and dad and Charles had each brought him one present for that day, but Stephanie didn't bring him a thing! All she did was buy the cake. She didn't even get him a present. Some of my friends over the internet, who haven't even met Nathan, are sending him presents for his birthday, but his own mother didn't even show enough interest.
She showed mom pics of Nathan from his first birthday, and mom said it was the saddest thing she had ever seen. Nathan looked so unhappy. His eyes looked so hollow. I remember the look in his eyes when we got him back last year. I remember it so vividly. In them was the look of someone who had seen to much pain, been through too much, it was not the look you expect a one year old to have. He lost his spirit during those three weeks and I thank God we got him back, that he is now the happy, spirited boy that he used to be. Everytime she's around though, he's not really himself, he retracts a little bit into his shell again.

Anyway, we're going to have his 'real' party tomorrow, on his actual birthday. We have our own cake, and we saved the presents we thought he'd like the most, plus since Charles gets his paycheck tomorrow, we're going to take him to pick out something else.

And I will post pics. Promise.

[Scooter's Mom]

For Stephanie's extra day, yesterday we had a birthday party for Nathan at a local park. Me, mom and dad and Charles had each brought him one present for that day, but Stephanie didn't bring him a thing! All she did was buy the cake. She didn't even get him a present. Some of my friends over the internet, who haven't even met Nathan, are sending him presents for his birthday, but his own mother didn't even show enough interest.

Perhaps it isn't that she didn't show enough interest, maybe she didn't have the money for a cake and a gift. And the photos will show the cake for many years to come. At 2, he won't remember that she didn't buy him a gift. But he will be able to look at the photos and know she was there and brought him a cake.