Child welfare in Texas removes children from polygamist compound UPDATE #13

[RICHARD]

That was my first thought (Stepford Wives) when I saw a couple of the women interviewed. They appeared to be like robots almost. (

But what about the uni-brow?

The thing that made me shiver was the way the unibrow woman gave the tour.

"This is the bedroom where XXX sleeps, she's not here...."

Overstating the obvious??? Too scary.

[Catty1]

I think you might want to start a thread about tweezing.

When I was in my early teens, I was close to having a 'unibrow'. I've tweezed the 2 inches between the brows ever since.

Bet that woman just doesn't tweeze...a lot of us women might look more like her than most people know!

[RICHARD]

I think you might want to start a thread about tweezing.

When I was in my early teens, I was close to having a 'unibrow'. I've tweezed the 2 inches between the brows ever since.

Bet that woman just doesn't tweeze...a lot of us women might look more like her than most people know!

And what makes you think I know anything about make-up?

And where are the men in this story?

[Catty1]

the men will be in court - if they can get any of the present women to speak.

Or the DNA testing!

[NicoleLJ]

I hope if the women get the right counsling that they will talk. But it might not happen. They were raised and brainwashed extensively into this religion. And we might never know the full extent of the abuse many of them have gone through also. To many of them what went on may have seemed normal and ok because that is what they were raised with and brainwashed with. Which is the sad state of it. I just hope a few or more of them with the right kind of treatment and therapy can come forward and give a full account of what went on there so that the men can be charge with the full extent of their crimes.

One of the sad parts though is should the adult women be charged too for being a part of it or allowing it to happen? The thing that will have to be looked at is how brainwashed were they? Did they honestly know deep down that what was going on was wrong? If they didn't and they had no real contact with the outside then what can they be charged with? They were raised to believe such was ok. In fact that if they didn't they were going agianst God or some such thing. How ingrained was this in their minds so that we can fully see who all is at fault?

We could easily say that both parents are at fault because they were both adults and so on. But is that totally true? I am not saying it is or isn't. I personally have not made up my mind yet. But if the women were raised in this enviroment, with no influence to the outsides thinking, then how much fault can you place on them? Honest question. Just something to think about.
Nicole

[lizbud]

In light of the court order releasing the children back to their mothers. A cartoon from a few days ago.

[Medusa]

We could easily say that both parents are at fault because they were both adults and so on. But is that totally true? I am not saying it is or isn't. I personally have not made up my mind yet. But if the women were raised in this enviroment, with no influence to the outsides thinking, then how much fault can you place on them? Honest question. Just something to think about.
Nicole

Yes, that's right. You and I can look at the situation and say that the mothers are at fault as well but we weren't raised in that environment w/out outside influence. Ya don't know what ya don't know. If, as adults, they joined this organization (I don't know if you can join; I'm just guessing here), then, of course, they're culpable. It's such a convoluted situation and the ones who suffer are the ones who have already suffered enough.

Yesterday I saw on the news photos of Warren Jeffs w/an 11 or 12 year old girl; her exact age hadn't been determined yet. He was kissing her on the mouth like a husband would kiss his wife. How that can be perceived as anything other than abuse is beyond me. It brought tears to my eyes. Jeffs should be worried about his safety in prison, that's for sure.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Yesterday I saw on the news photos of Warren Jeffs w/an 11 or 12 year old girl; her exact age hadn't been determined yet. He was kissing her on the mouth like a husband would kiss his wife. How that can be perceived as anything other than abuse is beyond me. It brought tears to my eyes. Jeffs should be worried about his safety in prison, that's for sure.

I saw that too. Am I wrong or did the girl look pregnant? She looked it to me anyway.

[lizbud]

But what about the uni-brow?

The thing that made me shiver was the way the unibrow woman gave the tour.

"This is the bedroom where XXX sleeps, she's not here...."

Overstating the obvious??? Too scary.

Maybe they don't allow mirrors in the compound.

One thing that was interesting was their explanation of the big bed in the
temple. They said it was not for sex, but was a bed for people to rest during
their long prayer meetings. Right.

[shepgirl]

If you've ever been in a Mormon temple you would be amazed at what you saw. And not to mention the the money to build those temples, money that could be used to help poor families. And I hear people criticizing the royals all the time. At least they were from money in the first place.

[K9soul]

If you've ever been in a Mormon temple you would be amazed at what you saw. And not to mention the the money to build those temples, money that could be used to help poor families. And I hear people criticizing the royals all the time. At least they were from money in the first place.

I don't think it's very appropriate to make broad generalizing comments on a whole faith. Why would you assume there are no people of the Mormon faith on this board or people with family who are Mormon?

[wolf_Q]

If you've ever been in a Mormon temple you would be amazed at what you saw. And not to mention the the money to build those temples, money that could be used to help poor families. And I hear people criticizing the royals all the time. At least they were from money in the first place.

The LDS (mormon) church donates a LOT of money towards charities and helping out in times of need; not just to church members either...they were one of the first there with supplies and help for everyone during Hurricane Katrina. The money used to build the temples/churches is all donations from church members.

I'm not sure why this even needs to be in here because, as previously stated in this thread, this is NOT the LDS (mormon) church that these women/children belong to.

[lizbud]

The LDS (mormon) church donates a LOT of money towards charities and helping out in times of need; not just to church members either...they were one of the first there with supplies and help for everyone during Hurricane Katrina. The money used to build the temples/churches is all donations from church members.

I'm not sure why this even needs to be in here because, as previously stated in this thread, this is NOT the LDS (mormon) church that these women/children belong to.

I'm glad you posted Amy. I knew you would understand the sect being
discussed is not the LDS, but the FLDS. A big difference.

[NicoleLJ]

If you've ever been in a Mormon temple you would be amazed at what you saw. And not to mention the the money to build those temples, money that could be used to help poor families. And I hear people criticizing the royals all the time. At least they were from money in the first place.

OUCH is all I can say. Thanks for the insult to my faith which means to me. This thread is not about Mormons it is about the FLDS. THey are not Mormons.

And who by the gave you the right to insult our buildings where we practise our religion? Our buildings(temples, church buildings and so on) are built with member donations. We have a right to our buildings to worship in just as anyone else from any other religion.

And as someone else mentioned our religion(Mormons) donate a ton to charities, help with food banks by donating food that our members make at our churches food warehouses. My comunities rely heavily on the donations from our church. They also support their members in their ward that have very little to no income with the tithes from the members. For example they help with rent, morgage payments, food, bill payments, gas, medical coverage and so on. They even help non members too with this same help. My religion helps a lot of people and a lot of communities. And I am very proud of my faith. Are we perfect? No way. No one is. Is there a faith full of perfect people? Nope. You can't base judgements on a whole religion and all the people on a few.

I am sorry but to me your remarks are nothing but insulting of a whole sect of people. Which to be really shows who has the problem.
Nicole

[RobiLee]

I just want to speak up and say that I didn't like shepgirl's post either. Others have said it better than me so I don't have much else to say. I just don't understand the generalizing of it all.