When third graders attack.....

[caseysmom]

Yeah me and my daughter went to the lake Sunday and there was a car there, the only other car besides ours and it had a bumper sticker that said "this is my peace sign" then a picture of a bulls eye. There young son was throwing rocks at the ducks and getting cheered on by his big brother, I guess that was all learned in the family.

[DJFyrewolf36]

I'll admit sometimes I had fanasies about doing something mean to a particularly nasty teacher of mine when I was a little kid but I never ever acted on it nor would I ever take even a toy weapon to school. That kind of thing was unthinkable when I was younger. Yes I played violent video games, and I did watch my fair share of kung fu movies and the like but I was always taught the difference between real life and fantasy.
A lot of people blame media violence for what kids do today and I'll admit it does play a part but at the same time I was exposed to way more violent and less politically correct stuff at a far younger age than kids today and I never shot up a school or attacked a teacher. My parents were always teaching me things though, dispite the fact they both worked full time when I was growing up. I think parents need to start parenting more and letting the government or special action groups raise their kids less.

[dukedogsmom]

I think parents need to start parenting more and letting the government or special action groups raise their kids less.

Exactly. They depend on the teachers and police to raise their kids.

[moosmom]

Yeah me and my daughter went to the lake Sunday and there was a car there, the only other car besides ours and it had a bumper sticker that said "this is my peace sign" then a picture of a bulls eye. There young son was throwing rocks at the ducks and getting cheered on by his big brother, I guess that was all learned in the family

And you didn't say anything to those little fu--ers??? I would've thrown rocks at them to see how they liked it. Grrrrrr, don't get me going on stupid parents.

[Catlady711]

It's not just the video games/cartoons influencing kids. What about all the ton of CSI, Cold Case, etc type shows. These type of shows basically step by step tell you how people were killed, and a person with a twisted and/or misguided mind could easily see these as a 'how to' on murder.

Many times kids are just left to go watch tv to stay out of the parents hair. The parents frequently don't supervise the viewing. And to top it all off many parents sit and watch tv shows like this with thier kids and never speak up on what was right/wrong with people's actions on the show, and never use the shows to help teach their kids reality from fantasy.

When I was growing up my mom not only supervised how much tv I watched but what I watched as well. Whenever I was watching tv mom would ask questions or point out things during commercials to help teach things to me. Heck mom even used real life situations (kid screaming and throwing a tantrum at the store/restaurant) to teach me how to behave and to learn lessons from things around me.

This is sadly lacking in many homes. Parents don't pay attention to the tv shows THEY'RE watching, to realize the influence on their kids, let alone use the time during comercials to teach their kids.

[JenBKR]

It's not just the video games/cartoons influencing kids. What about all the ton of CSI, Cold Case, etc type shows. These type of shows basically step by step tell you how people were killed, and a person with a twisted and/or misguided mind could easily see these as a 'how to' on murder.

Many times kids are just left to go watch tv to stay out of the parents hair. The parents frequently don't supervise the viewing. And to top it all off many parents sit and watch tv shows like this with thier kids and never speak up on what was right/wrong with people's actions on the show, and never use the shows to help teach their kids reality from fantasy.

When I was growing up my mom not only supervised how much tv I watched but what I watched as well. Whenever I was watching tv mom would ask questions or point out things during commercials to help teach things to me. Heck mom even used real life situations (kid screaming and throwing a tantrum at the store/restaurant) to teach me how to behave and to learn lessons from things around me.

This is sadly lacking in many homes. Parents don't pay attention to the tv shows THEY'RE watching, to realize the influence on their kids, let alone use the time during comercials to teach their kids.

Exactly - and there have been studies done that say that kids don't completely understand the difference between 'real' and 'fantasy' until age 16. I wonder if these third graders even understood what would actually happen to the teacher.

[DJFyrewolf36]

Exactly - and there have been studies done that say that kids don't completely understand the difference between 'real' and 'fantasy' until age 16. I wonder if these third graders even understood what would actually happen to the teacher.

What studies are those? I'd be interested in seeing that actually, as I thought I had a good grip on the differences at a young age. Maybe I'm an odd case though.

[dukedogsmom]

Exactly - and there have been studies done that say that kids don't completely understand the difference between 'real' and 'fantasy' until age 16

When you make a statement like that, you need to post facts to back it up. That's ridiculous! I knew real from fantasy way before then and I know I'm not the only one.

[caseysmom]

And you didn't say anything to those little fu--ers??? I would've thrown rocks at them to see how they liked it. Grrrrrr, don't get me going on stupid parents.

We just drove for an hour and I was in the bathroom, when I came out my daughter was mad and told me about it. By then the boy was walking away, I told my daughter if I see him do it again I am going to go stand near him and talk to him about what he was doing.

[IRescue452]

Sometimes its the parents morals that get in the way. I frequent quite a few forums and gamer sites online that are visited by kids as young as 8 years as well as adults. Sometimes kids will start threads about wanting all of a certain group of people to die just because of the way they are dressed or the way they act. Stereotypes run wild and most of their topics are worthy of hate crimes. And where do they learn to hate certain groups...parents usually. Religion and race especially play a huge role. Kids take to extremes the things parents might only say or do in private settings.

[cyber-sibes]

We were talking about this over lunch today with friends - unbelievable, isn't it? But I disgree:

... They depend on the teachers and police to raise their kids.

A big part of the problem is that teachers are NOT ALLOWED to discipline kids in the classroom anymore. It's not like when we were kids & you were expected to show respect to adults in authority (who were entrusted to provide consequences for your misbehavior) For Pete's sake, these kids hatched this plot because a teacher reprimanded them for standing on the chair? What's next - will they plan to kill a parent who tells them not to stand on the furniture at home?

[Reachoutrescue]

This is so horrible. My son is in 3rd grade so this really bothers me. These kids are so young...where do they get this from? They are only 8 and 9.....what are they going to be like when they are 15 and 16? I really hope something is done for them before it is too late.

[RICHARD]

I don't have kids, so fire away....

When I was growing up we didn't have ALPHABET KIDS.

THose are the children with ADD, ADHD, PSP, DVD, TMOBiIE and all the other good letters that have defined them in the last few years.

In the Bad old days kids were taken aside, talked to, given the proper guidance-or a swift arse kicking if need be.

The rules of Mixed Martial Arts apply here, No biting, hair pulling, eye gouging, punches to the back of the head and no kicking while the child is down.

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The bleeding hearts will say that the kids are too young, too effed up, not old enough to take the fall for their little plot.

I say toss them into a camp or home-somewhere they can get a little structure in their lives.

Can you imagine the outrage if they had done this to one of the mothers in the group?

There would be fire and brimstone set against the world. The parents would ban together and drive that family out of the community.

ANd that brings me to the teacher.

She gets no support or any kind of sympathy from the community.

It shows you the effing respect we have for anyone in command-teachers especially. We send the kids to school to learn and when they act like animals
everyone jumps to their side and blames the system.

We look at Generation X and Y....Gen Z is coming up soon and after that we'll have to invent letters for the little AHs that we have no control over.

Me? I'm glad I don't have problems with kids.


One cat is enough for me!

[mugsy]

I don't have kids, so fire away....

When I was growing up we didn't have ALPHABET KIDS.

THose are the children with ADD, ADHD, PSP, DVD, TMOBiIE and all the other good letters that have defined them in the last few years.

In the Bad old days kids were taken aside, talked to, given the proper guidance-or a swift arse kicking if need be.


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ANd that brings me to the teacher.

She gets no support or any kind of sympathy from the community.

It shows you the effing respect we have for anyone in command-teachers especially. We send the kids to school to learn and when they act like animals
everyone jumps to their side and blames the system.

Ok, I said I wasn't going to comment anymore on this, but, Richard's response made me do it!

1. My 8th graders were talking about it today (they found that more interesting than the 8 murders in a week here) and thought it was FUNNY! That speaks volumes for our society.

2. In reference to the Alphabet Kids...my favorite is ODD...opposition defiance disorder...in my youth that child would be called exactly what his is...a SPOILED BRAT who needs a good swift kick in the butt.

3. In reference to Richard's comments on the lack of support for teachers...I have only one thing to say.... RICHARD...WOULD YOU MARRY ME???

[lizbud]

A big part of the problem is that teachers are NOT ALLOWED to discipline kids in the classroom anymore. It's not like when we were kids & you were expected to show respect to adults in authority (who were entrusted to provide consequences for your misbehavior)

One sure cure for today's school problems is to have an Order(any Order)
of Catholic nuns to take over the running of the schools.These kids would shape up quick. back in the "good old days" Catholic schools were given
permisson by the parents to discipline children if neccesary.

Children knew their limits & the consequences of bad behavior.