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  1. #1
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    Me again.

    I saw that Emerald green explained how she worked the bag, so thought I'd post how I did that also.

    Take a piece of twine, tie in a loop about 4 inches long, knot it well. Open cupboard door, TOP cupboard is what I did, and loop this over the top hinge. Get a small "S" hook and slip it over the twine. This all stays put. The door will open and close fine.

    When it is time to administer the fluids, hang the bag off of the hook. I had Amber up on the kitchen counter.

    But I bet you can use a lower cabinet and sit on the floor, as well.

    Just one more idea.

    Oh, and I suppose it is a GOOD that that 3 of us referred you to the same site!
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    The ideas about a smaller needle and freezing it sound good, as well as changing the inject sites...if BraveHeart learned it hurts way less, he might not object to it so much.

    {{{hugs}}} and good luck with that baby. He could be around a long time yet...what with working up an appetite on his social outings and all!
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    I agree with what all the others have said; the sub-q's made a huge difference for Sammy, and the Pepcid helped her want to eat.

    She ate renal diet for about 3 years after initial diagnosis, and then decided she didn't like it. Someone posted this link that gives protein, sodium, and phosphorous levels for other commercial foods and I found senior foods that she liked that weren't as far off a renal diet as some other foods:
    http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm
    Hunt around for links from this site - they also have dry food ratings.

    And, as the others have said, eating is more important than eating a specific diet.

    I also used the felinecrf.org site that the others have mentioned.

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    Jen, my Puddy has been on subQ's for a couple of years now and it's made quite a difference in how she feels and acts. As others have mentioned, my vet recommended using a larger gauge needle in order for the treatments to go faster and, although it is a little more uncomfortable upon insertion, the treatment goes so fast that I feel it's worth it. Puddy has always been a very impatient and aggressive cat and to have a treatment take longer than it has to just isn't worth it to either of us. I also move the needle to a different spot each time so that the area doesn't become sore. It's also important to use a new needle each time or at least every other time so that it's more comfortable. Puddy gets 150 cc's and I use my judgment as to how often. In the beginning, she was getting 2 treatments a day, then I backed off to 1 a day for a while, then 1 every other day, then every two days, etc. If she looks scruffy ie. somewhat dehydrated, she gets a treatment.

    As for vomiting, my vet said that if she throws up once, not to worry but if she throws up twice in one day, to call him, especially if it's bile and not food. Believe it or not, Puddy actually likes canned KD now, which is especially for cats in renal failure and it also comes in dry form but she isn't too hot on that. I also sprinkle Forti Flora on her food; it's a pro-biotic that's quite palatable and it helps her w/bowel movements. It's great for cats who get diarrhea often or who, like Puddy, tend to have mushy stools.

    Trust your judgment as to how often to give the subQ's unless your vet told you specifically how often to give them. Puddy always perks up after one. You can't hurt Braveheart by giving him too much. He may get a little pocket of fluid, though. Puddy gets an accumulation right under her front right leg but, after a while, it goes down. It doesn't harm them in any way. And when you first administer the subQ, Braveheart may squeal a little and that's because it feels funny when it first goes in.

    Braveheart will get used to his treatments and so will you. It'll become so easy that you won't think anything of it after a short while.
    Blessings,
    Mary



    "Time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all." Ecclesiastes 9:11

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    Thanks everyone.

    I knew the sub-q's were important. And shall continue to try.

    BraveHeart doesn't mind the needle going in (too much) but actually getting it in is difficult. It is not difficult because of the original "stick" but because he is SOOOOOOOOO skinny. No matter where you attempt to make "the tent" there is absolutely no thickness to the skin. I have, all too often, had it go in one side and out the other without even realizing it. so, even though I attempt to use a different spot each time, there is just not enough thickness to keep the needle in.

    As for using a smalle needle, I'd love to, but BraveHeart's biggest grief with me is not having enough patience to get the fluids in (so we don't want it to take LONGER!) He gets agitated and squirms and wiggles and I can't keep the needle from coming out. If he was a heavier cat, it might stay in better.
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    Jen, the same thing happens to Raven when she get her fluids!!! She is only 4.9 pounds, and the needle goes in and out. Then I see the LR coming out of her!!!! She does not like the restick and is a real wiggle worm!!! Since I have several cats that get fluids, I invested in an IV pole. Brico is the site where I get my fluids and supplies, they are very good and helpful. FAST delivery, too!
    www.bricomedicalsupplies.com/CRFpage
    Last edited by kb2yjx; 03-24-2008 at 09:24 AM. Reason: mistake!!!
    Nine is Fine!!

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    If that address does not come up, put Brico Medical Supplies in your search engine. The site you need will come up!!!
    Nine is Fine!!

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