dukedogsmom - thank you so much for the compliment! Going into the field that I am, I have to learn how to be "professional" at all times, so guess what PT... I'm starting to post again in the more "controversial" threads for practice... you are all my guinea pigs!
Ah, you reminded me of something I want to elaborate on from my previous post:
I love my dogs as my own children too, but bottom line is they are not human children. I treat my dogs with more respect and care and attention than most dogs receive, that still does not make them human. Humans have rational thought. Humans can also put two and two together and come to a conclusion, ie "I threw my crayons all over the floor so mom took them away because I misbehaved". Dogs simply do not think like that. Dogs live "in the moment" - not saying they don't have a memory (how else do you teach them tricks like "sit", "stay" and "beg"?), but a memory is very different from rational thought. So by saying you would never put your human children through something because you would feel bad does not apply to dogs. Humans can realize WHY things are happening and WHATS going on. Dogs do not. YOU are the only one who will "feel bad", your dogs won't know the difference one way or the other (except they will most likely live longer, healthier lives!).
Unfortunately... no matter how much we'd like for them to be, dogs just aren't people. I am by no means saying I don't love my dogs, but I've come to the understanding that their mentality is not the same. We have the tendency to put human emotion or reasoning behind their actions. "My dog pooped on my rug because I took his toy away and he is mad at me!" No, your dog pooped on the rug because he is sick or just needed to poop and you weren't available to let him outside.
When you can learn to discern between the two, then you will gain a much better understanding of how dogs REALLY think. And usually it's just "BALL? FOOD? TREAT? CAR RIDE?!!?!?!??!"

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