RE: Rockee thread

[bckrazy]

I didn't call you a troll. I called your post trolly.

Whether it was intended or not, the goal of it seemed to be to offend, or start an argument. That just isn't cool, especially when the thread is regarding an ill, elderly dog, whose owner (whom I happen to consider a friend) is simply seeking some comfort.

"But when comments like Age = Well Cared for keep perpetuating it tends to make the people who lose animals young feel guilty as if somehow they are at fault for losing their animal which is not always true."

I can't even follow this logic. Saying that a dog who reaches 14 years has lived a long, full life... is going to make people who lost their dogs at a young age feel guilty? Ummm, ok.

[jennielynn1970]

I didn't call you a troll. I called your post trolly.

That just isn't cool, especially when the thread is regarding an ill, elderly dog, whose owner (whom I happen to consider a friend) is simply seeking some comfort.

"But when comments like Age = Well Cared for keep perpetuating it tends to make the people who lose animals young feel guilty as if somehow they are at fault for losing their animal which is not always true."

I can't even follow this logic. Saying that a dog who reaches 14 years has lived a long, full life... is going to make people who lost their dogs at a young age feel guilty? Ummm, ok.

Her posts have always been the farthest from "trolly". She as always been here to give information and has always been neutral about it. And your rationalization about your wording is like saying "I didn't call you a b*tch, I called you b*tchy." Wow... big difference.

Whether Alicia is your friend or not, doesn't mean you have to agree with everything she says, or the way/tone in which she says it. You can have a friend and not agree with them... I normally don't have an issue with Alicia except for her tone and the way she phrases things on here. She could be nicer about it if she wanted to (Same here... and normally I'm civil, but I have little tolerance for Alicia's, and now, her mother's, snippy comments for anyone who doesn't agree with them).

I didn't find her comment hard to follow... but I believe this is what she meant by her post: (Follow along please, I divided it into two parts
There are a lot of people, including on this board, that have cared for their animals well and yet the animals die at a very young age, though no fault of their own. = Many people have lost animals at a very young age, even though they were well cared for. The pets dying early was not the owner's fault.

But when comments like Age = Well Cared for keep perpetuating it tends to make the people who lose animals young feel guilty as if somehow they are at fault for losing their animal which is not always true.
Just because someone's animal has reached old age, does not mean that it has been well cared for vs. someone's animal who died at a young age means that it was not well cared for. Age at time of death does not show a connection to how well cared for they were.

[chocolatepuppy]

Oh wow, now I'm in the Dog House. Like I said...

IMO you were way out of line posting information about people not always caring for their dogs just because they lived to be old, in Rockee's thread. If I had a old, sick dog and you posted that in my thread, I'd be very upset.

[bckrazy]

Her posts have always been the farthest from "trolly". She as always been here to give information and has always been neutral about it. And your rationalization about your wording is like saying "I didn't call you a b*tch, I called you b*tchy." Wow... big difference.

Whether Alicia is your friend or not, doesn't mean you have to agree with everything she says, or the way/tone in which she says it. You can have a friend and not agree with them... I normally don't have an issue with Alicia except for her tone and the way she phrases things on here. She could be nicer about it if she wanted to (Same here... and normally I'm civil, but I have little tolerance for Alicia's, and now, her mother's, snippy comments for anyone who doesn't agree with them).

I didn't find her comment hard to follow... but I believe this is what she meant by her post: (Follow along please, I divided it into two parts
There are a lot of people, including on this board, that have cared for their animals well and yet the animals die at a very young age, though no fault of their own. = Many people have lost animals at a very young age, even though they were well cared for. The pets dying early was not the owner's fault.

But when comments like Age = Well Cared for keep perpetuating it tends to make the people who lose animals young feel guilty as if somehow they are at fault for losing their animal which is not always true.
Just because someone's animal has reached old age, does not mean that it has been well cared for vs. someone's animal who died at a young age means that it was not well cared for. Age at time of death does not show a connection to how well cared for they were.

There is a difference between calling some one a troll, and calling a specific post trolly. If I called her a troll, it would imply that all of her posts are trolly.

I included that I consider Alicia a friend because I've talked to her several times, I've known her for years, and I know she's a good person... and I feel it necessary to defend her from rude remarks, especially regarding such a sensitive subject.

As far as holier-than-thou attitudes... talk about the pot(s) calling the kettle black! Sheesh. Thank you for the recap, but I'm not stupid, I realize what she's trying to say. By following her logic I mean, it is not logical, to me. I feel the comments made were uncalled for and hurtful in the given context, regardless of excuses. And I find it hard to believe that Catlady711 did not expect Alicia to take offense, when she posted those comments.

This thread is dead to me. Good day.

[Ginger's Mom]

I am not sure if this thread is intended to be a discussion of whether dogs who live until they are in their mid-teens are well cared for, or whether it is a discussion on whether Suzie called Sally (names purposely changed) a troll. In either case, it is a rather silly discussion. I don't think a dog can/will live that long without human care/assistance. If you want to get into a debate as to what appropriate care of a dog is, there are probably as many answers to that as there are dog owners. The fact that a dog does live to that age does not have anything to do with another dog/cat many states away dying at a young age. I am surprised that anyone on this board would think that it does. I am particularly surprised to see that someone who works at a veterinarian's office would chose to make a correlation between the two.

[jennielynn1970]

As far as holier-than-thou attitudes... talk about the pot(s) calling the kettle black! Sheesh. Thank you for the recap, but I'm not stupid, I realize what she's trying to say. By following her logic I mean, it is not logical, to me. I feel the comments made were uncalled for and hurtful in the given context, regardless of excuses. And I find it hard to believe that Catlady711 did not expect Alicia to take offense, when she posted those comments.

This thread is dead to me. Good day.

I don't think I've acted holier than thou... and I never said you were stupid. What you said was you didn't understand what she meant, so I tried to clarify it for you from the the way saw it to mean.

I have friends that I have known for years as well, but if I don't agree with something they say, then I will not back them up. I am not a sheep who has to go along with the mainstream to make the rest happy.

As for pots and kettles, I think you joined us a while ago. Can I choose whether I want to be a pot or a kettle?? I'd rather be a kettle cause then I can blow off steam...

[Sparklecoon]

I'm not going to get in on the he said she said but I've seen dogs in my short 23yrs that have unfortunately lived in horrid conditions for a long time. A neighbor dog, for example, is 10 going on 11 and has been chained to a dog house for at least 9 of those years. Vetting is nonexistent and food is garbage (old roy).