Two new users posting their one and only post right here in this thread. My first impression is that these are byb'ers who specialize in this "breed" and want to defend it for potential buyers who see the thread. I hope I'm wrong.
Two new users posting their one and only post right here in this thread. My first impression is that these are byb'ers who specialize in this "breed" and want to defend it for potential buyers who see the thread. I hope I'm wrong.
"There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion."
Lord John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton
I fully understand the appeal of a smaller Aussie, as in, 16"-18"... the trend in show lines is leaning towards REALLY big (60+ lbs), and I personally prefer smaller, working types.
But, honestly, 10"?! 6 lbs at 6 months?! I am not denying that your "toy" Aussies make great pets, but what is the point of breeding them down that small? There is no possible way a toy Aussie could do the work the breed is intended to do, therefore it is completely irresponsible for anyone to be breeding these dogs intentionally.
I have never seen a toy Aussie who resembled an Aussie, besides the coloring. Every single one has had a domed head, bulging eyes, unproportional body, etc. Just... not pretty. Get a Papillon.
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We have nothing against the dogs themselves. Of course, they deserved to be loved and cared for like any other dog. What we do not agree with is that these breeders are breeding their dogs down to make them 'cuter' and many times do not care whether these dogs are healthy or not. Australian Shepherds were bred for herding, and many times that is what they love to do. Making them smaller only makes it impossible for them to do the one thing they were bred to do. It's just for money and nothing else.Originally Posted by scrain2329
*Sammy*Springen*Molli*
I just met a "Toy Aussie" at the dog park, today... it looked almost exactly like this, except it was a Red Tri.
Uhg. It was petrified of everything, and it just didn't look, move, or act anything like an Aussie. IMO, there is no way that dog was 100% Aussie, no way. If it was, it should still be given a different name. I have nothing against the dog, but it was NOT an Aussie, by any stretch of the imagination.
There is a very similar "Toy Aussie" who frequents the dog park, a black tri, who has the same temperament. It's really sad.
Based on this photo, and this photo alone, that looks as though there is some pom and/or chi, because there is NO WAY that is 100% Aussie. Just no way.Originally Posted by bckrazy
That dog is absolutely adorable, but it looks like a tri colored papillon mix.
"There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion."
Lord John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton
Seriously, Jessika!Originally Posted by Jessika
That's exactly what I said... "Are you sure she's full Australian Shepherd?"... "Oh, yes, we saw the pedigree!"
The dog was cute, but just, NOT an Aussie. I have known Aussies of all shapes, sizes, colors, and personalities - but there is no way. If she IS, then something went really wrong some where along the line, and Aussies of that quality should have never ever been bred... several generations before her.
I mean, these dogs are DWARFED by Fozzie. And he isn't tall, by any means. About 12".
Originally Posted by bckrazy
Every "toy Aussie" that I've met has had that same personality. NOTHING like a real Aussie should be.
I agree with everyone else. These TOY Aussies look nothing like real Aussies. Every dog deserves to be in a loving home, but these dogs shouldn't have even been bred. I show Australian Shepherds...the REAL Aussies and these dogs look nothing like them. If one of these were takin into the show ring the judge would more than likely disqualify it and laugh in your face.
Owned by two little pastries!
REST IN PEACE GRACIE. NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT I DON'T MISS YOU.
There is a couple that have three Aussies who frequent the dog park we go to. They have one of each size. A large one, a medium one and a small one. I'm guessing that maybe the smallest one is a teacup?? I'll try to remember to post pictures of these guys when I get home.
Tyson, the smallest one, is a riot! He gets super excited and just wants you to throw a ball ALL day long. He also likes to jump in the 5 gallon water bucket for a cooling off and rest from running himself ragged after the ball. That should give you an idea of his size.
Will come back to post pictures.
Our goal in life should be - to be as good a person as our dog thinks we are.
Thank you for the siggy, Michelle!
Cindy (Human) - Taz (RB Tabby) - Zoee (RB Australian Shepherd) - Paizly (Dilute Tortie) - Taggart (Aussie Mix) - Jax (Brown & White Tabby), - Zeplyn (Cattle Dog Mix)
Funny I was reading this thread this afternoon..... and met one tonight. I swear it was simply a large long haired chi.
What knocked me over was what she said "oh I plan on breeding her this summer" The manager and I jumped on that one and asked her why. Her answer: because the breeder asked her to and that the breeder has 20 of them throughout the country. IDIOT!
She doesn't meet AKC requirements, or look like just like the typical Aussie.
She is boss of my 90 pound lab, and my horse is still scared of her when she gets to barking on his heels during my ride. She just sits in the middle of the arena and watches. makes sure everything is okay if he acts up she is up and on him getting him to move forward. Yes i realize this isnt the safest thing, 6 pound dog, 1200 pound horse... you cant stop instincts! she chewed the tie i had her on just so she wouldnt have to be tied up... just in case mom needed help!
She has more aussie traits than her grandma haha.
I agree, it is sad that the breeders are breeding them just for the size...
My little one she was just that weird little runt which happens, i wish that this cross designer breeding would stop... It isnt right, or fair because people dont realize what they are getting into, and no way am i defending potential buyers or promoting the breed, just... chatting I guess. Going to the shelter was what I really wanted. With all my heart, but after the lose of my short hair, she was there looking at me, and I was told 'all yours'.
R.I.P. Maddie-moo, we miss you
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I am glad your little one, runt of the litter and all, has a home where she is treasured and adored. I am glad you are not planning to breed her just because she's the runt, and you could get a smaller dog of of her. Every dog should have a good, loving home. I disrespect people who make "designer breeds" just for the sake of money, and without any acknowledgment of the characteristics and problems of the breed, or the breed mix.
Treasure your baby, give her a kiss for all of us, okay?
I've Been Frosted
Well this is my first post ... I just have to put my 2 cents in .. I have standard ,mini,toy,& teacup aussies all from aussie stock not a midex breed ...
I would post pictures of all of them but can't see anywhy to do so.
yes I am a breeder and don't cross my aussies with anything but another aussie. My little teacup is not petrified she herds goats along with the big dogs . She doesn't know she is only 8" tall ...
A dog that is petrified is not socialized right .. it really has nothing to do with the bred its the breeder or owner ...
Ok off my soapbox ..
Y'all have a good night
Last edited by wigglebutts; 02-06-2009 at 06:49 AM. Reason: to ad photo. Well still cant ad pictures :(
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