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    Quote Originally Posted by cmayer31
    According to your own stats: Firearm-related crime has plummeted since 1993, then slightly increased in 2005.

    Hrmm... if we keep violent video games and crime goes down, it also then appears that having guns causes a plummet in related crimes. So not banning video games based on your stats = not making guns illegal.
    This makes absolutely no sense at all because obviously if guns didn't exist there would be zero gun-related crime. Fluctuating statistics doesn't make the case that guns are safe no matter how you look at it.

    Probably crime dropped after 1993 due to the Violent Crime and Law Enforcement Act passed in 1994. Part of this act also included an assault weapons ban. The assault weapons ban expired in 2004, which actually could account for the increase in fire-arms related crime in 2005.

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    The jefe de la policia, for the LAPD is Wm. Bratton.

    Formerly of the NYPD, he has made it a point to reduce all crime in Lost Angeles-the 'statistics' bear this out!


    The crime stats for the different precincts get skewed like this.

    East valley

    2004 - 4 deaths
    2005 - 2 deaths

    HOLY Hollow point! A 50% drop in murders!

    West valley

    2004-10 deaths
    2005- 8 deaths

    A 20% drop-combine those two numbers and you get a phenomenal percentage drop in the murder rate.

    Not a good indicator-

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    ANd what constitutes a crime rate?

    Those numbers area a mish mosh of violent crimes-can we look at the gun related numbers on their own?

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    ES,

    I didn't read any stories about the guns- I just heard that it was two pistols and a shotgun.


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    MY last comment is about some of the schools here in El Lay/cah lee fuh nee ah and crime in general.

    Some have metal detectors at the front gates. Everyone goes thru them....
    The schools, like the one in Oxnard, where people believe that "nothing like this has ever happened here"have none and the reaction to a school shooting makes me scream and laugh.

    Evil has a passport that allows access to any point on the planet.
    If you have such a narrow field of view concerning guns, kids and massacres in a school, I am really sorry about the wake up call, but am totally stunned at your ignorance.


    Our ignorance expands to a store clerk getting shot over a few bucks in a store. We can shake those off ad nauseum, every day...But when Eric and Dylan go 'ballistic' in Littleton, Colorado we reel in shock and climb over ourselves to figure out why!

    Is it any more shocking to go thru the ashes of a massacre and find a reason than it is to not to find one?

    Oh, the "trenchcoat mafia" left us videos, comp files and detailed plans. So we know why they did it.

    To make "sense" of a senseless killing really makes sense.
    Typical stupidity on all our parts. We just need an reason why and pulling a gun in a high school makes perfect sense.
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