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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
    Molly is a Newfoundland,I dont think her intensions are killing Lacy,They both have been fighting to be number 1 "Alpha"
    Don't bet on this ever being resolved peaceably once & for all. Dogs live by their own built-in hereditary code, it's hard-wired. It will be up to you to keep them apart for good, because you won't get any warning when things are about to explode. (This is why we now have only one female)

    Mine have had a few scuffles resulting in puncture wounds, I clean them up with hydrogen peroxide & just keep them clean. My vet said to put triple anitibiotic ointment on it. I do recall one vet said not to use peroxide straight, but dilute it with water.

    Hope they're both healing up alright. That is so frustrating, we know your not a bad dog mom, just dealing with dogs acting like dogs. (((hugs))) to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
    My vet said to put triple anitibiotic ointment on it. I do recall one vet said not to use peroxide straight, but dilute it with water.
    Straight peroxide kills the healthy tissue too. That's why it's recommended to dilute it.

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    Lori I think you're missing the point. It isn't a matter of showing them you are the alpha...they will recognize you as their alpha without a doubt. But they will still keep trying to win the top dog position. Whether Molly is a Newfie or not doesn't count in hiaerchy issues. Since she is bigger and has already traumatized the other pack member, it will be just a matter of time before she kills her. I've seen this more than once, they have to be kept apart period. You could be in the house with them, but get busy or turn your back and the deed is done. When it happens it will be too late for "I should"this or that, you will lose your dog forever. And your vet saying spaying would help is very wrong, it does nothing to help, just as neutering does nothing to tame aggression.
    I hope your dog will be fine and that the vet will give you some good advice.
    Be careful of scary situations with your dog for a while, the shock of the attack is still fresh and she will need to be reintroduced to noise and commotion again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepgirl
    Lori I think you're missing the point. It isn't a matter of showing them you are the alpha...they will recognize you as their alpha without a doubt. But they will still keep trying to win the top dog position. Whether Molly is a Newfie or not doesn't count in hiaerchy issues. Since she is bigger and has already traumatized the other pack member, it will be just a matter of time before she kills her. I've seen this more than once, they have to be kept apart period. You could be in the house with them, but get busy or turn your back and the deed is done. When it happens it will be too late for "I should"this or that, you will lose your dog forever. And your vet saying spaying would help is very wrong, it does nothing to help, just as neutering does nothing to tame aggression.
    I hope your dog will be fine and that the vet will give you some good advice.
    Be careful of scary situations with your dog for a while, the shock of the attack is still fresh and she will need to be reintroduced to noise and commotion again.
    I am not missing any point,There was a problem im fixing it,When they have battled before,it has sounded worse than it really was,And when i spoke they stopped instantly.

    I was not home when it happend,My daughter was,and she had no control of the situation,They have not had any problems for months.

    There seperated.Until i have a professional out here to observe that is all i can do for the time being,There both safe,and this will not occur again.

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    I hope Lacy recovers quickly from her wounds. Fights like that are scary.
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    I've been reading this thread but I haven't replied until now. I'm so glad to hear that both dogs will be okay. I hope that you'll be able to keep them separated from each other from now on and that this won't ever happen again. I never knew that having 2 female dogs could result in something like this. I've learned some very valuable information today.

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    And your vet saying spaying would help is very wrong, it does nothing to help, just as neutering does nothing to tame aggression.
    I dont think he is wrong one ounce,It sure does calm them down,Spaying and Neutering is not only to prevent litters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
    I am not missing any point,There was a problem im fixing it,When they have battled before,it has sounded worse than it really was,And when i spoke they stopped instantly.

    I was not home when it happend,My daughter was,and she had no control of the situation,They have not had any problems for months.

    There seperated.Until i have a professional out here to observe that is all i can do for the time being,There both safe,and this will not occur again.
    Then Lacy and Molly cannot be around each other when you are not home. Unless someone is home who can control them, they CANNOT be together, unless you want something like this happening again.

    Also, spaying a dog = calmer dog is not true.


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    I am sorry this happened. have you tried crating and rotating them at all? fights can be scary. have you done NILIF too? you have to make sure you are the alpha at all times and not them. I know how fusturating this can be.
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    Even if you are home with them, I'd use soft muzzles when they are together at any time, even on leash.

    Aren't females great!? I always hear people say they don't want two males, and I'm always confused by it. Females are the fighters. Heck, my female rats would kill each other if they ever got in a big scuffle. My males; rarely the tiniest puncture in a male scuffle. Females of all species are much worse together.
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    Lacy is doing just fine,and i am relieved now that i have gotten her to the vet.I ended up not taking her to my own vet,I bit my tongue and took her into the Alta Vista Emerg lastnight 2 hours away.

    I was just in a panic,I hate seeing them in pain,Molly has a ripped ear,I took her into our normal vet this Am.

    There so weird they battle then love eachother.I have done this process before,Im not going to ignore it,But i will never have a house of females again...Im not being cruel but this has been a problem for awhile,Never resulting to this.

    So both girls are healing,All i have done is i went and got a gate,One is upstairs and one is down,I cannot lock them in a room,so this works just fine.


    They lick eachother thru the gate,After all that happend lastnight.

    I have a lady coming out Monday to observe them.That is all i can do,The problem will be fixed,Lacy seems very distant and i dont think she will ever try and pull that again.

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