Opinions on this breeder?

[bckrazy]

Wow... this got horrifically ugly! D:

Pickle, I will put aside the fact that you are acting very rude, immature, judgemental, and holier than thou.

What annoys me the most is that you are implying that rescue is the only way to go. Buying from a reputable breeder is NOT effecting rescue. Of course, I always suggest rescue as an option, but to judge some one for wanting to find a reputable breeder to buy a puppy from is just close-minded. That kind of attitude is what drives people away from rescue AND reputable breeders - the attitude of the elitist rescuer. I have met quite a few. And, with every single one of them, it seems that their passion does not come from a love for the animals; it comes from a love for being condescending and putting others down.

Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet? Everyone makes mistakes, everyone lacks judgement at times, and there are situations where it is the only resort. What matters most is how one goes about re-homing... I have known Alicia for a while, and I know she is a responsible pet owner. You can keep spewing your personal attacks, if it makes you feel better, but I'm not listening.

[buttercup132]

PS: And unreputable breeders, let alone pet owners, can lie. I remember Ivy's story, and Alicia was told he was fine. It was after she got him that he went to the vet and the problems were discovered.

Now, if you knew beforehand that you couldn't take on a special-needs pet - then got one you were told was fine, and it turned out to be special needs - what the heck are you going to do?

Especially if you are in school, not working, and it's your parents' money(which is why you wouldn't get a special needs pet in the first place)?

Alicia has said she is in regular contact with Ivy's new owner.

Pickle - whatever good points you may have had in your postings (and I saw none) were obliterated by your bloody rudeness.

JMO

Thank you, I remember almost everyone supported what happened with Ivy and agreed with what I was saying. I guess some people are just too blunt to understand these things.

Thanks everyone for your help.
I think next time I'll just pm a few people who I know, know alot about finding good breeders.

[-Pickle-]

Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet?

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

[lorn]

Just wanted to add, that Alicia(we) has just lost a precious Mixed breed whom we have had for 12 and half years. Loved dearly....
We also have a 13 year old mixed breed dog still and 3 domestic cats...4 of these animals were rescued from shelters...
So, clearly get over yorself.
(srry ali!) coudlnt help it.

[Genny]

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

well you should be grateful that you've never had to rehome a pet. I have and so have a lot of other PT's here i'm sure..it was one of the hardest decisions we have ever had to make but sometimes it's for the best. You should stop bashing at buttercup. You let her know how you felt at first but it is getting ridiculous now...I think you just want to argue.

[BC_MoM]

and i can say that everyone sans two or three people is just biased towards alicia because she wasnt one the people that have seen her second face.

Again, spitting out lies. In reality, Alicia and I really aren't fantastic friends. We've only recently started to get along.

yes we can. my view is check every shelter near her first. then if that doesnt work, find a better breeder than this one.

You're hilarious. It is people like YOU who turn rescue off of people. You still have yet to tell me what is wrong with Alicia getting a purebred from a reputable breeder.

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

Then you can't possibly understand that some people don't have a CHOICE and find GREAT new homes for any pets they need to rehome.

Anyway. Didn't Karen PM you already to tell you to watch it? I suggest you follow her advice.

[Twisterdog]

What a ridiculous thread. I hesitate even posting in it.

However, in the original post, an opinion was asked for ... does this breeder seem like a good one?

My opinion is: no. I agree with those who, for various reasons already stated, say this breeder seems like a BYB. A VERY nice person can be a BYB. They are not all horrible people. They are all ignorant people.

I'm not saying stupid, I'm saying ignorant. Ignorant means not knowledgeable, not informed. I have been working with dogs for decades, and I am very much too ignorant to be a breeder. I'd say about 90% of people breeding are also too ignorant to be breeders. I do not have anywhere near the time, detailed knowledge, money or commitment to be a reputable breeder. I wouldn't even try. It's the people that try anyway that make BYB's.

Owning and loving a purebred dog does not make you an expert. I own four purebred dogs, I have done purebred breed rescue for years and years. I love my dogs with all my heart. I've read books, taken classes, studied articles on the internet, and worked hands on with dogs for decades. It makes me more knowledgeable than the general public on dogs in general, and these breeds in particular. But does it make me such an expert that I am qualified to say that I know how to better the breed by adding more puppies to the registries? No way.

You can be the nicest, most sincere, sweet, caring person in the world ... that doesn't give the the knowledge and experience with genetics, show standards, etc. that being a reputatble breeder requires.

[buttercup132]

Didn't Karen PM you already to tell you to watch it?

She did, but member she doesn't care what people think or if she gets banned so she won't stop until she is banned ro we stop talking to her. Once I get a pm from Karen telling me to knock it off I don't even reply back to that thread, she is still coming back here.

no. I agree with those who, for various reasons already stated, say this breeder seems like a BYB. A VERY nice person can be a BYB. They are not all horrible people. They are all ignorant people.

Thank you for going back on topic, although this thread is already far gone I won't be getting a puppy from these people.

I like the one Erica posted http://www.curlious.ca/puppies.asp
They are even in Toronto which is kinda close to me.

This is a little of what they said (on their site too)

Our goal is not to win the most ribbons, or produce the most puppies, but to help promote the total dog, in conformation, health and temperament. Through public education, genetic testing, conformation and obedience events, we hope to present to the world the very best possible Chinese Crested. We are proud to CERF, OptiGen, BAER and OFA our dogs.

[Suki Wingy]

Everyone- please just ignore pickle. I suspect this thread will be closed very soon, anyway, since the original topic has been touched apon already.

Pickle has shown countless times in this thread that she simply has not yet had the time to live life and experience the twists and turns life can bring. That is youth. I am by no means trying to suggest I have either.

She has never re-homed an animal. What happens if an unavoidable, unsuspected event happens? Say you have a dog who you love and care for, and your income covers his needs, such as any medication, medical bills, feed, toys, etc. Suddenly a reccesion causes your employer to let several employees go because they can no longer afford to pay them, and you are one. All of a sudden, your income goes from adequate to not enough to even cover rent and you have to move in with a friend. Say your dog has a condition that causes him to need meds, meds which you no longer can afford. Do you keep him off his meds or do you find him a proper, loving home with a person who can afford his medication and all other needs he may have?

Get my point?

[Karen]

I'm closing this thread, as the original topic has been discussed, resolved, and none of us need the contention to continue.