Opinions on this breeder?

[buttercup132]

I don't think it really matters what country your from there's always going to be some breeders breeding to better the breed.

[IRescue452]

Reputable breeders don't make a profit selling puppies. They are lucky to break even.

[Catty1]

PS: And unreputable breeders, let alone pet owners, can lie. I remember Ivy's story, and Alicia was told he was fine. It was after she got him that he went to the vet and the problems were discovered.

Now, if you knew beforehand that you couldn't take on a special-needs pet - then got one you were told was fine, and it turned out to be special needs - what the heck are you going to do?

Especially if you are in school, not working, and it's your parents' money(which is why you wouldn't get a special needs pet in the first place)?

Alicia has said she is in regular contact with Ivy's new owner.

Pickle - whatever good points you may have had in your postings (and I saw none) were obliterated by your bloody rudeness.

JMO

[animalcraker]

Pickle - whatever good points you may have had in your postings (and I saw none) were obliterated by your bloody rudeness.

Amen to that!

[BC_MoM]

I am utterly disgusted with this thread. Alicia is asking for opinions on a breeder. She is not asking for anyone to bring up that fact that yes, maybe she does make snide and immature comments from time to time, but I don't think she is the only one guilty of this.

-Pickle-, you are making a complete FOOL of yourself with your immature and poorly backed remarks. I suggest that you zip it before you make yourself look even worse.

what im asking is-
why does the dog *have* to be a chinese crested? sure- theyre sweet little things. incredibly cute. but is it not possible that she could love a dog that *wasnt* pedigree?

1) Because she would like one, and is interested in the breed
2) I believe Alicia has had a non-pedigree dog.

I would like to know just where is your justification in saying that she has never loved a mixed breed? This was a poorly backed up statement.

nothing is going to happen to it if it doesnt get into your hands that is.

[[if you say i'll be banned. go ahead. say it. im not bothered]]

You're right, it would would probably wind up finding another good home. But what makes you say Alicia isn't a fit home for a dog (or animal)? You have no evidence other than her rehoming an animal she did not meet the needs for. She could have easily dumped it on the side of the road. Again, this is not a justified statement.

hey- its immaturity, yep. i dont *have* to be totally mature.
but you cannot deny that my arguement has logic.
if you say that i have a spineless arguement i suggest you go to your local hospital to have some tests run on your brain.

Yes, we can deny that your argument contains logic. You have made no justified statements.

and pretty mucht the only reason breeders breed is to make money.
purebreed=profit. they arent doing it for some nirvana-type reason of a doggie haven. its for their wallets.

Well, I am sorry to hear you think this. England must be a sad, sad place to live. Yes, some breeders breed for profit. These are NOT reputable breeders. Any REPUTABLE breeder does not make a profit, and just barely, mostly NEVER, even breaks even.

Can we all act mature now and get back ON TOPIC? (Topic being what everyone thinks of these breeders, for those of you who find this difficult to understand).

[-Pickle-]

-Pickle-, you are making a complete FOOL of yourself with your immature and poorly backed remarks. I suggest that you zip it before you make yourself look even worse.

i have considered your suggestion.
my answer is-
nope.

England must be a sad, sad place to live.

and canada+america are the happiest places in the world to live?

Yes, we can deny that your argument contains logic. You have made no justified statements.

and i can say that everyone sans two or three people is just biased towards alicia because she wasnt one the people that have seen her second face.

Can we all act mature now and get back ON TOPIC? (Topic being what everyone thinks of these breeders, for those of you who find this difficult to understand).

yes we can. my view is check every shelter near her first. then if that doesnt work, find a better breeder than this one.

[bckrazy]

Wow... this got horrifically ugly! D:

Pickle, I will put aside the fact that you are acting very rude, immature, judgemental, and holier than thou.

What annoys me the most is that you are implying that rescue is the only way to go. Buying from a reputable breeder is NOT effecting rescue. Of course, I always suggest rescue as an option, but to judge some one for wanting to find a reputable breeder to buy a puppy from is just close-minded. That kind of attitude is what drives people away from rescue AND reputable breeders - the attitude of the elitist rescuer. I have met quite a few. And, with every single one of them, it seems that their passion does not come from a love for the animals; it comes from a love for being condescending and putting others down.

Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet? Everyone makes mistakes, everyone lacks judgement at times, and there are situations where it is the only resort. What matters most is how one goes about re-homing... I have known Alicia for a while, and I know she is a responsible pet owner. You can keep spewing your personal attacks, if it makes you feel better, but I'm not listening.

[buttercup132]

PS: And unreputable breeders, let alone pet owners, can lie. I remember Ivy's story, and Alicia was told he was fine. It was after she got him that he went to the vet and the problems were discovered.

Now, if you knew beforehand that you couldn't take on a special-needs pet - then got one you were told was fine, and it turned out to be special needs - what the heck are you going to do?

Especially if you are in school, not working, and it's your parents' money(which is why you wouldn't get a special needs pet in the first place)?

Alicia has said she is in regular contact with Ivy's new owner.

Pickle - whatever good points you may have had in your postings (and I saw none) were obliterated by your bloody rudeness.

JMO

Thank you, I remember almost everyone supported what happened with Ivy and agreed with what I was saying. I guess some people are just too blunt to understand these things.

Thanks everyone for your help.
I think next time I'll just pm a few people who I know, know alot about finding good breeders.

[-Pickle-]

Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet?

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

[lorn]

Just wanted to add, that Alicia(we) has just lost a precious Mixed breed whom we have had for 12 and half years. Loved dearly....
We also have a 13 year old mixed breed dog still and 3 domestic cats...4 of these animals were rescued from shelters...
So, clearly get over yorself.
(srry ali!) coudlnt help it.

[Genny]

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

well you should be grateful that you've never had to rehome a pet. I have and so have a lot of other PT's here i'm sure..it was one of the hardest decisions we have ever had to make but sometimes it's for the best. You should stop bashing at buttercup. You let her know how you felt at first but it is getting ridiculous now...I think you just want to argue.

[BC_MoM]

and i can say that everyone sans two or three people is just biased towards alicia because she wasnt one the people that have seen her second face.

Again, spitting out lies. In reality, Alicia and I really aren't fantastic friends. We've only recently started to get along.

yes we can. my view is check every shelter near her first. then if that doesnt work, find a better breeder than this one.

You're hilarious. It is people like YOU who turn rescue off of people. You still have yet to tell me what is wrong with Alicia getting a purebred from a reputable breeder.

no, ive never rehomed a single pet.

Then you can't possibly understand that some people don't have a CHOICE and find GREAT new homes for any pets they need to rehome.

Anyway. Didn't Karen PM you already to tell you to watch it? I suggest you follow her advice.

[Twisterdog]

What a ridiculous thread. I hesitate even posting in it.

However, in the original post, an opinion was asked for ... does this breeder seem like a good one?

My opinion is: no. I agree with those who, for various reasons already stated, say this breeder seems like a BYB. A VERY nice person can be a BYB. They are not all horrible people. They are all ignorant people.

I'm not saying stupid, I'm saying ignorant. Ignorant means not knowledgeable, not informed. I have been working with dogs for decades, and I am very much too ignorant to be a breeder. I'd say about 90% of people breeding are also too ignorant to be breeders. I do not have anywhere near the time, detailed knowledge, money or commitment to be a reputable breeder. I wouldn't even try. It's the people that try anyway that make BYB's.

Owning and loving a purebred dog does not make you an expert. I own four purebred dogs, I have done purebred breed rescue for years and years. I love my dogs with all my heart. I've read books, taken classes, studied articles on the internet, and worked hands on with dogs for decades. It makes me more knowledgeable than the general public on dogs in general, and these breeds in particular. But does it make me such an expert that I am qualified to say that I know how to better the breed by adding more puppies to the registries? No way.

You can be the nicest, most sincere, sweet, caring person in the world ... that doesn't give the the knowledge and experience with genetics, show standards, etc. that being a reputatble breeder requires.