Opinions on this breeder?

[-Pickle-]

oh? well thats a very odd thing to say,
especially seeing as most of us remember a poor little furbaby called IVY.
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...&highlight=ivy
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...&highlight=ivy

where were you then?
kitty has a problem and your willing to throw it away!
if you can afford to keep a horse, a kitten and a crested dog, why couldnt you afford to keep Ivy?
do you even HAVE a heart?
and i dont care if i get banned!
the only 'havoc' ive caused is from telling the truth about a brat that apparently believes animals are expendable!
oh and stuck up?
if anyones stuck up, its you. you seem to take pride in telling younger people to learn their place like your the queen of pet talk and butter wouldnt melt in your mouth.
how far from the truth that is.

yes ive just fired the trouble bullet right through my own skull but you know what? i dont care. ive had enough of you and your never-ending willingness to make up excuses to get another animal. i had more responsibility when i was 5 years old than you have now. shameful.

[buttercup132]

Oh lord child, get your facts straight before you decide to go on a rampage.
You don't pay for your cats vet bills and I'd be surpised if you know roughly the cost of what vets even charge for a check up.
Do you know even what a heart murrmor is?
Do you know how much it would cost to get all the test done on him to even figure out if we could help him?
Do you know the how much it would cost for surguries and medications if we could help him?
I was scammed by the lady who sold him to me.
She said there was nothing wrong with him and he was perfectly healthy.
I took him to the vet for a check up and that's what I found. I didn't want a special needs cat as I know I can't afford one or care for one.
Hence why I'm looking for a good breeder so I don't end up with a dog that will have lots of problems.
I never re homed Ivy I gave him back to the person who sold him to me.
She told me she was going to keep him and treat him, again she lied to me and she is the one who posted the ad to re home him AGAIN.

the only 'havoc' ive caused is from telling the truth about a brat that apparently believes animals are expendable!
oh and stuck up?

Really because I remember you chasing Reggie around in any thread he replied to and would swear and call him names and start arguments.

if anyones stuck up, its you. you seem to take pride in telling younger people to learn their place like your the queen of pet talk and butter wouldnt melt in your mouth.

I never told you where your place is or any other kid?
I have said multiple times to you to respect older people and that wasn't even on PT.

how far from the truth that is.

Pretty far seeing as you don't know much about me. You've been here for not even a year, I've been here almost 3. How could you know 3 years worth of me in less then a year?

This is becoming WAY off topic so if your going to reply do it in pm's please as this is not what I asked for. If you don't like me or what I post put me on ignore and don't read my threads.

[-Pickle-]

heart murmur- extra or unusual sound heard in the heartbeat.

Do you know how much it would cost to get all the test done on him to even figure out if we could help him?
Do you know the how much it would cost for surguries and medications if we could help him?

not as much as loaning/buying/feeding/stable hire/grooming kits/ field hire/livery costs add up to. explain that.

Hence why I'm looking for a good breeder so I don't end up with a dog that will have lots of problems.

seeing as you sing the praises of shelters so very often, why dont you actually go to one and get a dog if you want one so badly? they need love too.

Really because I remember you chasing Reggie around in any thread he replied to and would swear and call him names and start arguments.

actually, about 98% of the time it was him starting on me or a friend. i'll admit i started the rest but i have 0 sympathy for those that deny medical aid to sick animals.

I never told you where your place is or any other kid?
I have said multiple times to you to respect older people and that wasn't even on PT

i respect my elders with intensity. but i do NOT respect those that treat animals as fashion items, status symbols or treat them like they can be swapped anytime.

Pretty far seeing as you don't know much about me. You've been here for not even a year, I've been here almost 3. How could you know 3 years worth of me in less then a year?

im a girl that does her homework alicia. its amazing what you find out by searching through days gone by.

[IRescue452]

Well, holy war here.
Sorry for the shot at your defensiveness, but you really were putting too much defense up for a breeder you don't even know. It did sound like you were turning a blind eye to the things we were pointing out in our evaluations. Don't get attached too quickly like that. For every good breeder there are at least two dozen bad breeders. You're gonna find a lot of breeders we'd give poor evaluations to before finding a good one. I'd even argue against half the breeders that PT'ers have purchased from. The perfect breeder doesn't exist, but you can do a lot better than this one.

[-Pickle-]

IRescue452,
well said dude.

even if you are going to get from a breeder, which i still dont approve of but your never going to listen to some "stuck up 13 year old" who "has no idea what shes on about", you can do better than this one. open ones eyes.

[buttercup132]

Great to see you read the part where I said if you want to reply do it in pm's

seeing as you sing the praises of shelters so very often, why dont you actually go to one and get a dog if you want one so badly? they need love too.

I'm answering this here because it is some what on topic.
I want a certain breed. I have no problem with people who go to PROPER breeders and never have. Other people on here think you shouldn't even get a dog from a proper breeder but I personally think it's fine.
If you looked at the breed I want I'm pretty sure it's pretty evident that they don't show up in shelters often, maybe with their growing popularity there will be more in the future but as of right now there isn't.
There is one in a shelter near me but it is special needs, again like I said with Ivy, I'm not signing up for a animal with special needs.
There are rescues with Crested but rescues are very strict and all these rescues are in the U.S and they usually don't ship and require a home check.
Kind of hard to do a home check when your across the country. Also most of the Cresteds in rescues are also special needs because they are from bad breeders.

If you really want me to answer the other questions I will pm you them seeing as apparently you can't grasp the concept of pming me.

You're gonna find a lot of breeders we'd give poor evaluations to before finding a good one.

That's exactly what I'm looking for.
I don't want to go to a bad breeder but I don't know much of what I'm looking for. I've never got a dog from a breeder so the only thing I know is what I've herd to look for on here. Which isn't that much.

[-Pickle-]

well, im not PMing you, because if you have nothing to hide and you are so valid, why cant the rest of the community read it?
and if the crested you got was special needs, would you throw it away just as you did with Ivy?

[Danegirl2208]

Come on now ..this is all a bit ridiculous..Buttercup did not post this thread so you could bash her..she asked for advice about a breeder.. if you do not like the fact that she plans on buying from breeder, that is fine, really..but move on or take it to PMs!..now how about we get back on topic?

Buttercup,

I am sending you a PM to a crested forum... i'm thinking they would be able to give you more advice on this breeder.

[-Pickle-]

i didnt come on here just to attack alicia. i came on this thread to ask how long it will be until this dog, or another animal, would be gone.
my 'advice'
see that shelter? yeah. its not for exchanging or binning animals. go down there and look around and you my fall in love with another dog.

[buttercup132]

well, im not PMing you, because if you have nothing to hide and you are so valid, why cant the rest of the community read it?
and if the crested you got was special needs, would you throw it away just as you did with Ivy?

I don't have anythign to hide but it is totally off topic. Almost everything you have complained about is just me repeating myself as it's already on PT somewhere.
No I wouldn't throw it away because I would never get one in the first place. And (oh repeating myself again) I never threw Ivy away I have him back to the person I got him from.

Thanks again Danegirl

[-Pickle-]

so basically,
"oh theres something wrong with this cat. oh i dont want to pay for it. oh its a heart murmur. i blame the breeder. take it back".
now that is what i call treating a cat like merchandise.

what if this crested were to develop a problem later? would you still keep it?
from what ive seen, i dont think so. it would be another brick in your wall.

[Danegirl2208]

i didnt come on here just to attack alicia. i came on this thread to ask how long it will be until this dog, or another animal, would be gone.
my 'advice'
see that shelter? yeah. its not for exchanging or binning animals. go down there and look around and you my fall in love with another dog.

Shelters are great..as animal lovers, we all know that and support them...but you are missing the point. She wants a Chinese Crested. Maybe she has already looked at shelters in her area for one, you do not know.. plus I highly doubt there are many Cresteds sitting in the pound waiting for a home. You really have no right to judge anyone for going to a breeder...responsible breeders are not the reason for the thousands of dogs sitting in shelters...irresponsible breeders are. If she is buying from a responsible breeder, who are you to judge her?

[-Pickle-]

what im asking is-
why does the dog *have* to be a chinese crested? sure- theyre sweet little things. incredibly cute. but is it not possible that she could love a dog that *wasnt* pedigree?

[buttercup132]

"oh theres something wrong with this cat. oh i dont want to pay for it. oh its a heart murmur. i blame the breeder. take it back".

No, like I said you don't even understand what a heart murrmor is. It's not just like the cat has a cold or a broken leg. It can't just be diagnosed and fixed. My two cats have had problems I'm sure you have come across during your creepy search on me.
Ducky had crystals and I paid and got that cleared. He went to the vet right away. Milo had a skin problem I took him to the vet and he got antibiotics that again I paid for. It's not a case of the cat just being sick and not wanting to pay for it and that's what you don't get. Until you understand the problem don't bash me.

why does the dog *have* to be a chinese crested? sure- theyre sweet little things. incredibly cute. but is it not possible that she could love a dog that *wasnt* pedigree?

Why does anyone on this board have certain breeds? It's because these are the breeds we like, these are what we are attracted to. I have no problem with mutts I love big mutts. My own dog is a mutt! I've been waiting for a long time to be able to get a Crested and that's what I'm going to get.

[Danegirl2208]

what im asking is-
why does the dog *have* to be a chinese crested? sure- theyre sweet little things. incredibly cute. but is it not possible that she could love a dog that *wasnt* pedigree?

That would be like asking me why do I HAVE to have a purebred Great Dane..Why? Because I LOVE the breed and I couldn't possibly imagine lfe without one. She is not a horrible person for wanting to get a purebred dog