Ally Cat Updates

[Barbara]

While I can understand how difficult it is to live with Ally I have to say that I feel irritated- to put it mildly- by someone who attributes to a cat characteristics like "nastiness" and "evil hatred".

I am absolutely convinced that I would attribute these words to very few humans in the world and definitely not to an animal. It is an anthropomorphism of the worst kind.

Frankly: if you feel overwhelmed by this poor cat that has been sent over the world like a parcel, has lost all her life several times and is like most cats not happy with living in a big group then bring her to a shelter- even if the risk is there that she may be euthanized. But do not take this b...s...(edited for cussing but still felt exactly that way) reading as a rationalization for it.

People who know me here for years will know that never in all my ten thousand posts I was using words like in that last phrase. I rather will not speak. But to kill Ally for her being evil- that is medieval! And if that should happen on this board while I just stand by I could no longer look in the mirror.

[Scooter's Mom]

I have used Nancy to read my boys. She's spot on accurate on so many levels. She didn't say one thing to me tat was incorrect.

That being said - Jenn, you have my full support whatever you do. Remember the pm I sent you awhile back. 100% support.

I'm sorry to say, but I'd have probably euthanized Ally months ago. You've given her a lot longer than I have. I'd have probably been alright after the 1st attack, but once she did it again, with such viciousness and vindictiveness, she'd have either been pts or sent somewhere else.

Hugs to you in your very hard decision,
Crystal

[Taz_Zoee]

Wow, this brings tears to my eyes as well. And I'm pretty skeptical about these readings in the first place. But having talked to Jennie and knowing how Ally is..... However, I am not sure Jennie can bring herself to make this decision. Maybe Barbara is right in just taking her to a shelter. Then the decision is out of your hands. But I know you will always think about her.
Perhaps the other suggestions would be an option as well. Another reading or the Prozac. But I know with another animal coming into the family this will really stretch the finances.
Jennie, I am so sorry. You know how to reach me.... ((hugs)).

[Medusa]

While I can understand how difficult it is to live with Ally I have to say that I feel irritated- to put it mildly- by someone who attributes to a cat characteristics like "nastiness" and "evil hatred".

I am absolutely convinced that I would attribute these words to very few humans in the world and definitely not to an animal. It is an anthropomorphism of the worst kind.

I must say that I'm in agreement w/this statement. That isn't to say that what you're experiencing isn't heart wrenching. I know that it is. If you haven't tried Prozac yet, you might want to give it a whirl. And everyone on PT knows my good experience w/Clomicalm. It does NOT drug my cats in any way and does not change their personalities for the worse. For whatever reason/s, if those options are not available to you, you may have to help Ally to the bridge.

Just one more thought: years ago I wanted to rescue dogs as well as cats. I took in a dog that showed up on my doorstep on Thanksgiving Day. She was absolutely beautiful and I thought that she would be easy to place. Well, I was wrong. She attacked me twice, once to the point where I had to run to my car and lock myself in, honk the horn til my son heard it and he came and rescued me from her. She was on the hood of my car, growling at me through the windshield, showing me every tooth in her mouth and her eyes were wild. Later that evening, she put her head in my lap as though nothing had occurred earlier, only to attack me again in a split second, this time grabbing hold of my ear. I worried that she would attack my friends or worse, their small children, so I called my vet w/my concerns. He examined her and showed me her teeth, which were pitted. He said that pitted teeth can possibly be caused by distemper and, if a dog lives through it, it can make them crazy, sort of schizophrenic. He said "This dog is miserable, Mary, and the kindest thing you can do is to put her to sleep." I did not want to do that but once he told me that she was miserable, that was enough for me.

The reason I mention this is because Ally may have some disease or disorder causing her to behave in such a manner that she frightens you as she does. If this is the case, perhaps the kindest thing that you can do for her is to help her find peace by escorting her to the Bridge. I apologize if it appears that I was trying to hijack your thread. That truly wasn't my intention. But I, too, do not believe that a cat or any animal is evil. Those are traits that, in my humble opinion, should be reserved for the human species and sparingly at that.

Bless you for trying your best w/Ally and for having the guts to stick it out this long. Whatever you decide, we're w/ya.

[Lizzie]

I agree with Barbara about the wording of the reading being such that I would set it aside, it really made me very uncomfortable also.

However, I don't agree with taking Ally to a shelter. Jennie has already tried every rescue that might understand Ally, ones where they might give her a chance, with no luck whatsoever. Taking her to a shelter would result in Ally's death the same day she was dropped off and in the hands of strangers. Not only that, but considering Ally's propensity for biting hard, she would need to be held down very hard by more than one person and they'd probably have to do an intracardiac or perineal injection because they wouldn't be able to get to a vein. This would be like a punishment to Ally for being a "bad cat". If Jennie does have to have Ally euthanized, she will make sure it is the gentlest experience possible for a cat that poses serious health risks for any human who comes near her.

There are some funds left for Ally to have a vet visit, I believe from what Jennie has said. Prozac is not expensive if you go to the right place. I get mine for Taranis from Costco and a two month supply costs me about $16.

[catlover4ever]

I am so sad to read about Ally's reading and all I can do is to send you my thoughts and prayers that you find peace in whatever decision you feel is best for Ally. (((HUGS)))

[Laura's Babies]

Me too, I hope you can find peace in whatever you do....

I sure was hoping for better than that though. She helped me so much with Boo that I was keeping my fingers crossed for at least half that much for Ally.

[cassiesmom]

There are some funds left for Ally to have a vet visit, I believe from what Jennie has said.

If further funds should be needed, please say the word. That would rule out any medical problem as the root cause of the behavior.

I am so sad to read about Ally's reading and all I can do is to send you my thoughts and prayers that you find peace in whatever decision you feel is best for Ally.

I agree 1,000%.

I also agree with Karen's hope that Ally might do better in a home where she's an only kitty, and on the thought that she would consider a second "reading" opinion - again, if funds are needed, please holler. I hope there is some correctable problem that can be identified that will allow Ally to be content in a home for the rest of her life.

[jenluckenbach]

Barbara has a VERY good point. "EVIL" is a human trait and it is being placed on an animal.

But I am not as optomistic as Karen, because the thought of attempting to place Ally into a home (by herself, with no other cats, even with experienced people) you are setting a ticking time bomb. SOMEONE is going to get hurt!

My best suggestion:

Get her into the vet. TELL them to handle her like a feral! EMPHASIZE that she bites without waning or cause! Then......have her examined for ANY possible problem causing her pain. Talk about using Prozac (and insist that you want the Prozac NOT the amitriptylin). ASK if putting her to sleep would be the best option! And go from there.

I think I can safely assume that many people, from this thread alone, will donate in order to get the vet tests needed to help Ally.

[carole]

Oh my gosh i can only imagine the turmoil going on in your head after reading that reading and the responses here, i really feel for you, regardless of what anyone has said including Nancy only YOU and YOU alone can make the call,you are the one living with Ally and sadly you will have to make this decision ,and it is going to be the hardest thing in the world to do.

Personally i am not into believing readings at all, and i would not base my decision on that,as people pointed out some of the things said to me anyhow are outrageous,about Ally being evil, come on,they don't have a conscience like you and I do,to me that is insane to suggest such a thing. I am totally in agreement with Barbara and yes would have used exactly the same words.


I think alot of people would have put Ally to sleep a long time ago.,but i am not saying that is the right thing to do, i cannot believe any cat could have that much hatred and anger that it is better off dead,sorry but to me that is just crazy statements made by the reader.

I hope you can find the strength in you to explore every possible solution, be it prozac, amitrip, whatever will work for Ally,i think knowing what i read about you, you could not live with yourself until you have, and by goodness you have already done so much, no-one would ever judge you,and all i can wish is for inner peace for you in whatever you decide to do . HUGS.

[catmandu]

I Agree, In That Stary Cats And Dogs Are In No Way Evil. They Are Scraed And Have Learned In The Wild That If You Dont Strike First At An Enemy Then You Can Be Injured Or Killed.
And A Lot Of These Poor Animals Have Had Sad Experiences With People So They Dont Know Who To Trust.
We Are Praying For You And Ally.

[phesina]

I will be glad to contribute to help Ally get another reading, a vet check, medications, or any other treatment that might help her or give her a little peace.

I seem to recall reading that early on when Ally was first with Julie she was sweet and loving and delightful. She did not come into this world "nasty nasty nasty" or full of "evil hatred."

I don't know what the best solution would be for her now. God bless you, Jenn, and everyone else here, for all you are doing for her and all the efforts to find ways that would truly help her.

[gini]

This just breaks my heart for Jenn and for Ally.

I am not sure what vet appointments Ally has had since she has been in Jenn's care. But I am all for the idea and would be very glad to contribute to another thorough vet exam.

More than ever, Jenn needs our support here - we all contributed to Ally's travel to the U.S. - but ultimately Jenn has the full responsibility.

That said, I feel as though I should reserve my private opinion - since it is just that - my opinion - and does nothing directly for Ally or for Jenn at this point.

[jenluckenbach]

Oh, I for one definitely support ANY decision on Jennie's part. I added my opinion (about a vet visit) because I think Jennie would feel better at least finding out if there was a medical reason for any of this. (and the story about the dog with the painful teeth REALLY got me wondering. )

[slick]

I have been following this thread and I have to admit that I am shocked by Nancy's reading. I knew from this site that Ally has some "issues" but I never thought for a split second that it is this bad. It deeply saddens me that Nancy would say that putting Ally to sleep will bring her peace. Having said that, Nancy did a reading on my Max and it was dead on.

Sitting here miles and miles away, I can only go on instinct and my gut tells me to go with Jen L's suggestion for a vet visit. If it were me, I would want to make doubly sure that there is nothing sinister going on inside her...like having a brain scan done just to see if there is anything going on inside her head. Then, maybe you've had all that taken care of...or maybe the brain scan is just a stupid suggestion.

I feel so badly for all concerned and I stand here and applaud all of you for the love and care you've given this sweet girl. Yes, I say sweet girl......

Whatever decision you make has to be based on what is better for Ally....not the humans or other kitties. If she's really that angry and hates everyone and everything, then how can she enjoy life??? Will anything on this earth bring her contentment?

I support any decision you make Jenn.