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    What this adoption outlet about? I dont actually know what it is.
    when you have a set up of say 4-5 kennels and have a Local Shelter or Rescue bring a few adoptable animals to the store each day for a few hours. I have seen some stores that do this every day for 3-4 hours and others that the shelter comes in once or twice a week etc... basicly it helps animals find homes, and it doesnt support mills.
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    Petstores are HORRIBLE but i rather them be in a petstore than in puppymills where there is 10 puppies per cage dying everyday. Thats all i have to say.
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    I don't agree with petstores that sell puppies AT ALL!!! Even if the petstore is like a puppy spa I don't agree with where the puppies come from. Buying a puppy is a big responsability. Not like a shirt, where you don't go pick out one that is your favorite color that makes you look best. You pick out a puppy by which one would fit your lifestyle best.

    The puppies can have all their vaccinations and be registered and still be horribly bred dogs. With health issues and problems that turn up later in life that could have been prevented if the breeder had done proper testing and selective breeding. NO responsible breeder would sell puppies to petstores to sell to random people. Responsible breeders want to know exactly who their puppies go to to make sure their have the best possible home.

    In my opinion, you can be supporting your local shelter all you want by putting up signs with adoptable dogs on them, but for every puppy you sell, that's one more shelter dog that didn't get a home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lute
    I don't agree with petstores that sell puppies AT ALL!!! Even if the petstore is like a puppy spa I don't agree with where the puppies come from. Buying a puppy is a big responsability. Not like a shirt, where you don't go pick out one that is your favorite color that makes you look best. You pick out a puppy by which one would fit your lifestyle best.

    The puppies can have all their vaccinations and be registered and still be horribly bred dogs. With health issues and problems that turn up later in life that could have been prevented if the breeder had done proper testing and selective breeding. NO responsible breeder would sell puppies to petstores to sell to random people. Responsible breeders want to know exactly who their puppies go to to make sure their have the best possible home.

    In my opinion, you can be supporting your local shelter all you want by putting up signs with adoptable dogs on them, but for every puppy you sell, that's one more shelter dog that didn't get a home.

    I agree but i rather the puppy be in a petstore than dying in a puppymill. Another thing i always say, NOT everyone qualifies to adopt. Just for the fact that they rent, or dont have a fence yard or even smoke, yeah i heard that one. The dog needs a loving home not a palace. And some people are just judge wrong. I tried every shelter in my city before getting my dog, i would of adopted but the shelters down here are tought. So oh well they lost their chance for being too picky. Again, i am NOT saying every shelter is the same.
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    If you're willing to work with an adoption group and if you let them know how dedicated you are, they will work with you. Adoption groups try to adopt dogs out, not keep them in.

    Adoption groups serve to find homes for unwanted dogs. Pet stores aim to make a profit off living creatures. Which one would you rather support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giselle
    If you're willing to work with an adoption group and if you let them know how dedicated you are, they will work with you. Adoption groups try to adopt dogs out, not keep them in.

    Adoption groups serve to find homes for unwanted dogs. Pet stores aim to make a profit off living creatures. Which one would you rather support?
    I had NO good ones in m area and i even went off a little and yet no luck because my mom's 2 acre yard was not completly fence in the front for a Yokie and a Maltese both 5 years old that needed a home together. Not only that but like 1 year later after someone else adopted, i saw an add on the classifieds of that person giving them away. If i had them they would of NEVER been giving away like she was doing.. See sometimes rescues make mistakes.
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    It seems to me that the shelters in the US are alot more people friendly that the ones over here.


    To be honest I've looked into the costs and you dont actually make much on a puppy at all, I know people cut corners and dont give the puppy the required health checks but if you do it properly you dont make much at all.

    IF we do decide to sell them then we would only use local breeders, Proper breeders not any puppy mills, We want to get a lot of breeders contact details and have information for people.

    I would prefer for someone to come in to us a buy a puppy thats been checked and brought from a good background rather than someone replying to an add on the internet and having an ill puppy, I know not everyone does research into getting an animal and we would provide help and rules to ensure the dogs best interest is first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieMommy
    I agree but i rather the puppy be in a petstore than dying in a puppymill. Another thing i always say, NOT everyone qualifies to adopt. Just for the fact that they rent, or dont have a fence yard or even smoke, yeah i heard that one. The dog needs a loving home not a palace. And some people are just judge wrong. I tried every shelter in my city before getting my dog, i would of adopted but the shelters down here are tought. So oh well they lost their chance for being too picky. Again, i am NOT saying every shelter is the same.
    I see how you would think having a puppy in a petstore is better than being at the mill it comes from, BUT if no one buys the petstore puppies there will be no more puppy mills. They would be stuck with all their puppies. If the puppies die at the mills, I do feel horribly bad for them. Wish I could help them all. If we bought all the puppy mill puppies the millers would only breed more.

    I understand how a lot of adoption programs are getting pickier all the time. Although, there are other options than a pet store puppy or shelter dog. If you must have a purebred dog go through a RESPONSIBLE breeder! Someone who lives and breathes their breed. Responsible breeders are picky as well, but only because they know the BEST home for their breed. A responsible Border Collie or Australian Shepherd breeder would never let a puppy go to a home with no yard or any time to spend with the dog. These breeds need jobs. They are super smart and a simple apartment life with someone that works 12hr shifts is no life for these breeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lute
    I see how you would think having a puppy in a petstore is better than being at the mill it comes from, BUT if no one buys the petstore puppies there will be no more puppy mills. They would be stuck with all their puppies. If the puppies die at the mills, I do feel horribly bad for them. Wish I could help them all. If we bought all the puppy mill puppies the millers would only breed more.

    I understand how a lot of adoption programs are getting pickier all the time. Although, there are other options than a pet store puppy or shelter dog. If you must have a purebred dog go through a RESPONSIBLE breeder! Someone who lives and breathes their breed. Responsible breeders are picky as well, but only because they know the BEST home for their breed. A responsible Border Collie or Australian Shepherd breeder would never let a puppy go to a home with no yard or any time to spend with the dog. These breeds need jobs. They are super smart and a simple apartment life with someone that works 12hr shifts is no life for these breeds.
    See the thing is people WONT stop buying from pet stores because not listens, so puppy mills will NEVER end. So rather them be suffering i rather see them go to homes where they will be loved. And the lucky ones make it to the petstores anyways, which is truly sad. If goverment does not do something about it, puppymills wont be stopped People have been trying for years. I myself would not go inside a pet store that sells puppies.

    I agree with you about buying from a reputable breeder but not all of us have the money that they ask. I would howevr buy from someone who bred their healthy purebred dog with another purebred and that puppies are loved and have all shots, but most important are healthy. That type if called BYB but they have lots of love to give, they do everything a breeder would except they dont show nor test their dogs, so its another way to go i guess. As long as i meet the family first and you know check every puppy.
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    ok, Thanks everyone you have given me lots to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieMommy
    See the thing is people WONT stop buying from pet stores because not listens, so puppy mills will NEVER end. So rather them be suffering i rather see them go to homes where they will be loved. And the lucky ones make it to the petstores anyways, which is truly sad. If goverment does not do something about it, puppymills wont be stopped People have been trying for years. I myself would not go inside a pet store that sells puppies.

    I agree with you about buying from a reputable breeder but not all of us have the money that they ask. I would howevr buy from someone who bred their healthy purebred dog with another purebred and that puppies are loved and have all shots, but most important are healthy. That type if called BYB but they have lots of love to give, they do everything a breeder would except they dont show nor test their dogs, so its another way to go i guess. As long as i meet the family first and you know check every puppy.
    I understand when you say that not everyone has the money for a puppy from such an outstanding breeder in their back pocket, but wouldn't you agree that's a good thing. It shows the breeder that you have thought long and hard and saved your hard earned $$ for a well bred puppy. As for the BYB, they aren't as bad as puppy mills, but the same genetic health issues can show their ugly heads as the puppy mill puppies. All it takes is a few genetic tests! It's not that hard!

    People CAN stop buying from pet stores! It IS possible! They only need to be educated! It's not going to happen overnight. Instead of just thinking "it's better the puppies are here then at the mills" try and educate people while they are in the petstores. When I worked at a petstore that sold puppies my job was constantly at risk because I would see someone interested in a puppy and redirect them to the local shelter or a responsible breeder. I've also been banned from another petstore because I did this. What makes a difference is so many people I talked to left the store, puppyless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottieMommy
    I agree with you about buying from a reputable breeder but not all of us have the money that they ask. I would howevr buy from someone who bred their healthy purebred dog with another purebred and that puppies are loved and have all shots, but most important are healthy. That type if called BYB but they have lots of love to give, they do everything a breeder would except they dont show nor test their dogs, so its another way to go i guess. As long as i meet the family first and you know check every puppy.
    If you don't have that money... ADOPT! Besides, every single puppy I have ever seen for sale in a pet store is ludicrously overpriced. Labradoodles for $2000. "Toy" Yorkies for $1500. You can buy most any breed (besides those prone to c-sections) for less than $1000, from a reputable breeder.

    If you recognize that puppy mills are BAD, and BYBs are BAD, why argue over what is the lesser of evils? They are both BAD. Why does it even matter if a BYB is breeding purebreds or not... those dogs have not been proven in the breed ring, or through working, to be of breeding quality. They have not been tested to assure they are genetically sound and healthy. They are pet dogs. They might as well be mixed breeds, in my opinion. Breeding poor examples of a breed for many generations will ultimately result in many, many dogs that do not live up to what the breed should be. Backyard Breeding & Puppymilling literally DESTROYS breeds.

    The true appeal of pet stores & BYBs is the convenience. Because people are impulsive. And it's just common sense, that people who are impulsively buying a puppy are most likely NOT commited to that puppy, and will most likely NOT properly care for it for the rest of it's life. Especially when all of the vet/training bills start piling up, for their unhealthy, poorly bred, unsocialized puppy.



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