Update!

[Lizzie]

From what I understand, Ali was a stray that Julie brought in while in Bahrain. Ali wasn't ever "tame", but the time she spent alone after Julie & Warren moved to S. Africa really didn't help any. I do know that jenn_librarian (jennie?) has been bitten and/or attacked multiple times. She's had a reading done by Nancy, which was not positive at all (towards Ali ever being a friendly kitty).

You are right and it may be kinder to have her pts, instead of living in turmoil the rest of her days. I don't know if anyone would ever consider that an option though.

My heart goes out to everyone involved - it's a terrible situation for anyone.

I remembered, also, that Allie was a feral or long-time stray. In countries where TNR is established, that is what would have happened with her and what would have been the best, but I don't think Bahrain is all that understanding of this method of dealing with ferals. Isn't this why Julie took her in rather than TNR'd her?

If Jenn can't tame her with all the one-on-one time she's tried to spend with Allie, I don't think anyone can. Perhaps there is enough money left over from the major donations so many on PT gave that a rescue can build a small house and enclosed run for her, it's about the best option.

[kt_luvs_kitties]

Jenn, You know exactly how I feel about this situation.... I think you have done MORE for Ally than her "former owners" have...

I believe that Conner lucked out as well...


I pray that something can be done for her, as I dont believe this is her fault.

And like I said from the beginning, leaving her in a place, all alone, for that long, well.... That is abuse, in my opinion.
If they wanted her Put down, well, they should be the ones watching and having to deal with the guilt . Not you...

Good luck. *fingers crossed*

[Catty1]

Jenn has done her darndest to spend time with Ally and work with her - but she has other cats too, and a full time job.

That is why I am thinking a place like Best Friends - which, as a sanctuary, keeps animals for a lifetime, if need be - would be best for Ally. There is also another one in PA that I messaged Jenn about.

JMO - but if a cat like Ally is ever going to come around at all, she would have to be with people 12 - 24 hours a day. And not many of us can provide that time...we have to work (for luxuries like housing and food, etc! )

[emily_the_spoiled]

I want everyone to know that Connor is a great cat and really funny. The only thing is that he needs to be an only cat. Unfortunately that doesn't happen in my house and this is as close to an "only" cat as I can get. If I could re-home him to someone I would still be selective because he deserves a good life.

Julie was up front about both of the cats when she asked for our help. I think people are right, that the months where Ally was alone were not good for her. But there really wasn't another choice at the time because she couldn't go to Nigeria and Julie had no one in Bahrain who could take her.

But Julie loved her cats with all of their idosyncracies just as we love our cats with their quircks. She did what she thought was best at the time. We did not know that it would turn out like this.

[jennielynn1970]

While Julie was upfront about the cats, I did not know that she was this bad of a biter. Had I known she was this aggressive with humans as well as with other cats, I don't know that I would have accepted this task. I thought, well, she nips, how bad can it be. I never went to look at old threads about Ally, and did not know her background.

I do feel badly for Ally. She can't help the way she is... I think that it is just her way of behavior. I also believe that Julie loves these cats very much, which is why, to me, euthanasia is not a choice for me. Ally has been someone's pet, and one that has been loved (psycho kitty or not...) and I just can't handle the thought of me putting her to sleep. She's not physically sick. Mentally, if cats can be mentally sick, I believe she is. It's like dealing with a split personality, or schizophrenia, but in a cat.

I'm going to try Animals in Distress, which is a no kill sanctuary. It's a brand new facility, and is only about 20-30 minutes away. Their old facility I thought was a hell hole, but the new one is just lovely. I'd like to live there, lol!

So, will keep you updated, as this has to move fairly fast. Sigh. The boys from upstairs are now at the shelter. And, just for the record, we are not allowed to board cats at our shelter. First, Ally is aggressive, and 2ndly, boarding cats could lose us our non-profit license. So, that is not an option.

[Catty1]

Jenn, if you do manage to reach BF in your area, you might find working with them a nice difference from some of the situations you described before.

I think they are looking in PA...volunteer, of course.

I hope you can get a message to them - failing all else, call the main # in Utah tomorrow, and get a contact for PA.

[lizbud]

I'm going to try Animals in Distress, which is a no kill sanctuary. It's a brand new facility, and is only about 20-30 minutes away. Their old facility I thought was a hell hole, but the new one is just lovely. I'd like to live there, lol!

That sounds like a good alternative. I hope Ally can go there. As long as
the people there know her history & flaws, it could be a great place for her.

Best of luck for the both of you.

[loveallfurryfriends]

All I can do is say a prayer for Ally & her foster mommy. Good Luck.

[shais_mom]

I'm late coming into this - all I can do is offer up prayers for the situation.
I do know that Julie updated her LJ a long while ago and she was making some major life decisions that didn't include the cats.
I won't go into details as it probably shouldn't be public info.
With Ally's history I couldn't believe she was being subjected to the travel she was I am still surprised no one was injured in the transportation of her.
I'm sorry you are going thru this. It certainly wasn't fair to either of you for you guys to not know they were going to be part of your life until the end of theirs.
((hugs))

[jennielynn1970]

Updated her "LJ"?? What is that?? Where did you get that post that you sent me, cause I have never seen it. I can't even find it on PT. She's never mentioned anything on that to me, nor has anyone mentioned those things to me in passing. But, yeah, the cats were not mentioned in there at all.

[shais_mom]

Updated her "LJ"?? What is that?? Where did you get that post that you sent me, cause I have never seen it. I can't even find it on PT. She's never mentioned anything on that to me, nor has anyone mentioned those things to me in passing. But, yeah, the cats were not mentioned in there at all.

check your emails - you should have about 4 from me.

[Kirsten]

I just read the entire thread and I'm really sorry that I cannot offer any help; I wish I could. It makes me very sad to learn that things have turned out this way, it's not the way it was planned! Like many others here at PT, I gladly helped when we were collecting some money to ship Ally and Connor to their foster homes in the US, and I thought it was a wonderful thing of Jenn and emily_the_spoiled to offer their help and give both Ally and Connor a home until Julie is able to take them back.

And now Julie (or Warren) does not want them back and leaves it up to you to decided what's now going to happen to Ally, and she even gave you her okay to put her to sleep? Wow, that's hard to digest, to be honest.

And yes, I think we all knew that Ally wasn't easy to handle and had a tendency to show aggressive behavior, but I had no idea that it was that bad! I think it's wonderful off you to have her read by Nancy; and I'm sorry that it did not help much to improve things. Guess it's just Ally's personality that she doesn't like other cats, and humans. Poor girl!

I really hope a good place can be found for Ally; and maybe also for Connor; a home where he's the only cat, if that makes him happier.

Kirsten

[phesina]

Jenn and Jen and Emily and all, here is another place that might be able to help:

HEAVEN'S GIFT ANIMAL RESCUE AND SANCTUARY: A non-profit, 501 (c) (3) organization
Dedicated to providing the necessary love and care for animals unadoptable, due to permanent injuries and special needs, as a result of extraordinary abuse and/or neglect.

From their web site (http://users.rcn.com/clarke86/Heaven_s_Gift_Website.htm):
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We do NOT adopt out our animals...nor do we foster or place animals elsewhere. Heaven's Gift Animal Rescue and Sanctuary offers a PERMANENT home for animals that have become victims of severe abuse and/or neglect...animals that have suffered permanent and lasting physical and/or emotional trauma and injury. We provide medical care and attention to special health concerns 24 hours-a-day, seven-days-a-week, for as long as they live. They become part of OUR family. We consider our mission an ever-rewarding labor of love.
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Jenn, I just PM'd you the contact information. It's in Maryland! Not all that far from Pennsylvania?! (I guess depending on where you are in PA)...

Pat

[Emeraldgreen]

Hi Jenn, I've been reading all of the posts in this thread and though I am not able to take in another cat at this time, I'm hoping an idea I have might help. I'm wondering if you think some Clomicalm might help Ally? I have two bottles of 5mg Clomicalm (60tabs) per bottle that were prescribed for my cat Paddy in mid October for aggression. Things have settled down here without needing the meds and I'm not sure if it's something I'll need to try with Paddy in the future but for now, the bottles are just sitting here gathering dust. One bottle has never been opened and the other is only missing one tablet. I know that it may not be ethical giving meds that were prescribed for one cat to another cat but in this case maybe it would be okay because Ally's options are so limited. I would be more than happy to mail them to you and who knows, maybe it will soften her personality enough to at least make her temporary situation with you more tolerable and her potential future living arrangements, wherever that may be, more comfortable for her. It sounds like she is dealing with issues that stem from once being feral and maybe she is angry for being 'abandoned' and this might not be an answer but it might take the edge off and make things easier.
Anyway, if you would like to give it a try, just let me know and I will send them in the mail tomorrow. I wish I could do more to help. Hope things get better for both you and Ally.
p.s. I will copy and post this letter in the Cat General as well just to make sure you see it.

[jennielynn1970]

Emeraldgreen.... just sent you a PM! Thanks!