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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    The more I read, the more doubt I have.

    For starters, Bhutto was not the angel depicted in the western media. There's a REASON most of that family have been assassinated.

    Second.....Al Quaeda? Give me a break. There was no announcement from them (atypical at best), and the more I look at the sequence of events, the more it screams spec ops..........in the case of Pakistan the ISI. (Pak state intel agency) They are out of control of the central government and military, and have been for a long time. Al Quaeda has the capability to pull of a hit, but the combined bombing/sniping takes more coordination than AQ's typical minimally trained footsoldiers. It takes a hell of a lot of intel to pull off something like that, and the AQ just doesn't have the skills to do it. They're terrorists, not military.
    Well, from what I heard on the news this morning, (which I do not agree with), it was all her own fault. She stood up and waved. If she had stayed seated like a proper lady, she would not have been killed. They say she died because she hit her head on the car roof when she ducked the gun fire. sheesh!!! Already they are trying to pass the buck!!!

    Will this be the next coverup?
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    Her supporters are screaming about the lack of security.........well, then she shouldn't have been standing in the open sunroof of an unarmored vehicle. Regardless of how lax the security provisions were, common sense has to play a part.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Her supporters are screaming about the lack of security.........well, then she shouldn't have been standing in the open sunroof of an unarmored vehicle. Regardless of how lax the security provisions were, common sense has to play a part.
    Wow. Perhaps she should never have left her home. Or perhaps she should not have returned to Pakistan.

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    It's just a shame what happened. I can't say that I didn't see it coming, because face it, a woman in a Muslim country being outspoken and saying her opinions and views... it was kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop to see what was going to happen.

    I don't think for one minute it was Al Quaeda or Taliban... unless the president paid a Talibani to kill her. Gov't is behind it. 100%.

    She was a force to be reckoned with, and that was intimidating to them, and if she had won as a president, how humiliating would that have been for the president now... I believe he had her killed.

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    In her fathers death cell she promised him she would continue his legacy, I truly believe she felt obligated to do that. She also would have to come close to the people to keep their support and she knew the risks.

    As far as her not being an angel are you trying to say she deserved this?
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    I'm about as surprised about this as I am when I get up and the sun rises.

    I'm not saying she deserved this, what I'm saying is that her family is far from clean, and has made many, many enemies, among them the ISI. Their government is not the monolithic block that western countries have. it is fragmented, with each part controlling their portion, with no one truly in complete control.

    ES, I'm not saying she should have never gone back, what I'm saying is that the VIP being protected has to take some resposibility for their own protection. She should have arranged for a more secure means of transport for herself, especially in light of the bombing that greeted her when she returned to the country. No one is truly secure at any time, but reasonable measures can be taken.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Hadnt she ever heard of the pope mobile???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    I'm about as surprised about this as I am when I get up and the sun rises.

    I'm not saying she deserved this, what I'm saying is that her family is far from clean, and has made many, many enemies, among them the ISI. Their government is not the monolithic block that western countries have. it is fragmented, with each part controlling their portion, with no one truly in complete control.

    ES, I'm not saying she should have never gone back, what I'm saying is that the VIP being protected has to take some resposibility for their own protection. She should have arranged for a more secure means of transport for herself, especially in light of the bombing that greeted her when she returned to the country. No one is truly secure at any time, but reasonable measures can be taken.
    And it was her responsibility that there were no police around too I suppose....

    She could have had her home hidden from Google, lived in an underground bunker, or avoided any places where those who opposed her might lurk. There are certainly other politicans who do these things.

    But find me a politician who isn't hated. Hatred of politicians, crocked political families and nut cases who will sacrifice themselves are just as likely as your sun is to rise.

    I just find your response to this...well callous... among other things. But apparently you know more about the situation and how she should have handled it than she did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Her supporters are screaming about the lack of security.........well, then she shouldn't have been standing in the open sunroof of an unarmored vehicle. Regardless of how lax the security provisions were, common sense has to play a part.
    Could the same thing be said for JFK, Malcolm X, perhaps Martin Luther King? I'm sure he knew the risks of what he was doing with his ideas in that period of history, but did it anyway because it was what he believed was right.

    I am really shocked at her death. Corrupt or not, she didn't deserve a death like that. And whilst Al Quaeda may not be to blame for this one, sure as eggs are eggs they're going to find it a lot easier to operate in a panic-stricken, angry, unrestful nation.

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    Could the same thing be said for JFK?
    Not really. Had there been any active, credible threats against JFK the Secret Service would have forced him to ride in an enclosed limo, as opposed to allowing him to ride in a convertible.

    And whilst Al Quaeda may not be to blame for this one, sure as eggs are eggs they're going to find it a lot easier to operate in a panic-stricken, angry, unrestful nation.
    In all actuality, this makes no difference for AQ, as the area they operate in is under the control of no one. If you look at the borders in that area of the world on most maps, they are dotted lines. The border areas are under the control of mountain tribes who haven't been under anyone's control for centuries. Besides, angry and unrestful (restless?) describes Pakistan's entire history, not just the past few years. Panic stricken? Probably not in the least. Assassination is business as usual for Pakistan. Again, just look at their history.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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