Mars Inc in ANIMAL TEST HORROR

[smokey the elder]

This SO doesn't pass the smell test! Where's the USDA and IACUC??

[moosmom]

I so agree with Smokey the Elder.

[-Pickle-]

oh sorry, i didnt realise animal testing didnt have a place on pet talk. + PETA arent insane as so many people seem to believe and i would like to ask that if you dont believe in what they are saying please do not post. even if it is fake, we all know animal testing like this actually does happen.
i would appreciate that there are no more obselete posts, i am not attempting to flame anyone here, nor do i wish for it to be done to me, im merely trying to raise awareness of these horrors. if you think its BS, im not going to try and change your mind.

[dukedogsmom]

This is a public forum and everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. If you want one sided views, then you might not want to post too many things here.

Snopes doesn't have anything on this so I don't know if it's valid or not. Those PETA people can be quite over the board sometimes. I agree with their cause but not their actions, a lot of the time.

I can't seem to find any links to prove that it's true. Just accusations.

[caseysmom]

Peta lost all credibility to me when they targeted my daughter who was 12 at the time and showed her graphic pictures, luckily my daughter didn't look but her friend threw up.

[Lady's Human]

i would like to ask that if you dont believe in what they are saying please do not post.

That's just not going to happen. PETA has made so many false accusations over the years that they have zero credibility. If you don't want negative comments, don't post about PETA.

even if it is fake, we all know animal testing like this actually does happen.

Faking reports like this and twisting facts to fit their viewpoint is WHY they have no credibility.

PETA funds have gone to terrorist groups (ALF and ELF), and they have used absolutely inexcusable tactics in their "awareness" campaigns (see CaseysMom's post). The harm they do in their campaigns far, far overshadows any good they may accomplish.

[TamanduaGirl]

I agree with their cause but not their actions, a lot of the time.

PeTA doesn't want any animals in human hands, including domestics. Domestics should go extinct and all others be free. That's their ultimate goal, that's their cause.
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/21
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

HSUS is the same way they just wear a nicer suit(Image) for the public

There is an enormous difference between animal “welfare” organizations, which work for the humane treatment of animals, and animal “rights” organizations, which aim to completely end the use and ownership of animals. The former have been around for centuries; the latter emerged in the 1980s, with the rise of the radical People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

In 1980, HSUS officially began to change its focus from animal welfare to animal rights. After a vote was taken at the group’s San Francisco national conference, it was formally resolved that HSUS would “pursue on all fronts … the clear articulation and establishment of the rights of all animals … within the full range of American life and culture.”

The group completed its animal-rights transformation during the 1990s, changing its personnel in the process. HSUS assimilated dozens of staffers from PETA and other animal-rights groups, even employing John “J.P.” Goodwin, a former Animal Liberation Front member and spokesman with a lengthy arrest record and a history of promoting arson to accomplish animal liberation.

[-Pickle-]

i have another link for you, in which mars admits to testing a 'healthy' chocolate ingredient on animals.
http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/new...animal-testing

Christophe Dandoy, director of communications for Mars France, admitted that the business division Symbioscience does test on animals while developing products containing flavanols.

He also claimed, however, that the Mars is still committed to animal welfare, and does not test on animals when developing other products for the food, beverage or pet care divisions.

[lizbud]

i have another link for you, in which mars admits to testing a 'healthy' chocolate ingredient on animals.
http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/new...animal-testing

This link does seem to provide a little more information on the topic than
the last link but, don't wait around for some folks here to agree with you.

They won't because they are so busy shooting the messenger, they can't
look at anything objectively.Any mention of PETA ,and some folks here go
berserk.

[Miss Z]

Those PETA people can be quite over the board sometimes. I agree with their cause but not their actions, a lot of the time.

My thoughts precisely. On the whole, I agree with what they campaign for, but not how they campaign. I think, though, that the reason they have become so volatile is because peaceful protest has not worked for the animal rights cause in the past - your average person just doesn't want to know. I don't see a problem with showing young people graphic images of abused animals, unless that particular person is proved mentally unstable or very easily upset. I do have a problem with something, though, that actually harms another person or creature, something which PETA sadly seem to do often.

And I do agree with lizbud that it seems the cannons are out as soon as PETA is mentioned. -Pickle- is from the UK like me, and PETA don't bring quite so many of their more devious and dreadful plans across the pond, so over here they're seen as more moderate than extremists. I can understand why she would not instantly discredit them. And she is right - in some way or another this abuse does go on, all over the world, for medical or cosmetic purposes. At least this article raises some degree of awareness, albeit by more drastic and sour means.

[caseysmom]

My thoughts precisely. On the whole, I agree with what they campaign for, but not how they campaign. I think, though, that the reason they have become so volatile is because peaceful protest has not worked for the animal rights cause in the past - your average person just doesn't want to know. I don't see a problem with showing young people graphic images of abused animals, unless that particular person is proved mentally unstable or very easily upset. I do have a problem with something, though, that actually harms another person or creature, something which PETA sadly seem to do often.

And I do agree with lizbud that it seems the cannons are out as soon as PETA is mentioned. -Pickle- is from the UK like me, and PETA don't bring quite so many of their more devious and dreadful plans across the pond, so over here they're seen as more moderate than extremists. I can understand why she would not instantly discredit them. And she is right - in some way or another this abuse does go on, all over the world, for medical or cosmetic purposes. At least this article raises some degree of awareness, albeit by more drastic and sour means.

Do you think we shouldn't keep animals as pets?

[Miss Z]

Do you think we shouldn't keep animals as pets?

Of course? I never said I agreed with absolutely everything they did. If I believed that then I wouldn't keep any myself.

I personally can't imagine a world without pets; domestication has been present for tens of thousands of years, I doubt we can reverse it. Granted, that is one of PETA's stupid ideas. I do think, however, it should be made more difficult to obtain an animal by checking household income, home size, past records, etc, before an animal is brought into the home.

[Edwina's Secretary]

oi would like to ask that if you dont believe in what they are saying please do not post. even if it is fake, we all know animal testing like this actually does happen.

I read that the Taliban is made up of a great group of guys who treat women especially well. If you don't believe in what they are saying please do not post.

Sound silly? Of course!

Diluted paint....I mean that stuff doesn't even make sense. And you will notice it says "Mars is paying for..." not "Mars is doing"...because that makes it harder to prove/disprove.

There are enough real horrors in this world to fuss about and try and right. To say boycott this company because others may be doing bad things is...well again...silly... Even you admit it might be fake.

But boycott Snickers???? Over something that doesn't pass the taste test???

Not going to happen....

[caseysmom]

Posting something like this without proof is just irresponsible, thousands of people have jobs at mars, inc. Think about them this holiday season.