Carefresh Litter Prob

[buttercup132]

I know cedar and shavings in general is bad for bunnies because of the dust and they are so lown down to it that they are breathing it in all the time and it can cause lung problems.

I was always told to stay away from Cedar but I can't remember why. You can always check that out on google.

[Sevaede]

Aspen is nice!

[Karen]

The oils that make cedar smell good to us can cause irritation in small animals. We use Carefresh, and haven't had a problem with it, but it gets covered with hay, which probably keep the dust down. I am asthmatic and have been since I was a kid, and it doesn't bother me, but Miss Hoppy's hutch has never been in the bedroom anyway.

[Husky_mom]

not sure if it´s the same with gerbils than birds, but carefresh is highly looked upon bird owners and used for nests as it´s the safest for their respiratory system unlike sawdust that can affect them seriously....

might wanna try soem paper based litter, not sure if kitchen towels are good/safe for them, I use them as cage liners and it works just fine

[moosmom]

I was told that if you shred newsprint it's just as good as anything else and it doesn't create any dust. Save your daily newspapers and put them through a shredder that makes it confetti.

I use Carefresh and have never had a problem. Winkie hasn't complained yet.

[mousie]

Carefresh can be dusty, and although my ratties tolerate it, I don't like it as when it's cage cleaning time the dust is pretty annoying. Please don't use cedar or pine as these may smell good to us, but they're not good for our little friends. I use aspen for the rats, and I like it! It's not too expensive and works well. Just choose something that your gerbil can burrow and dig in.

~abigail

[Christmas_Hamster]

Some bags of CF are dustier then others but the Ultra/coloured CF is usually much less dusty. I don't have problems with it.

Cedar, Pine and all soft wood shavings have phenols that are released and cause respiratory problems and other problems such as hair loss, skin irritation, sneezing, and liver (or kidney can't remember) problems. Some humans who work with the stuff for long amounts of time are even known to have problems with it. Soft wood shavings (including cedar and pine) are bad for all small animals.

My mom used pine when she was a kid and her hamster had no problems but when I used pine (before I researched more into it) my hamsters ere starting to have problems.

The problems don't happen right away bit with time although sometimes they show up sooner. Just like the effects of smoking on people sometimes it comes later and sometimes it shows up right away.

[IRescue452]

As a mouse owner, I look down upon carefresh because of the dust. Dust won't harm a gerbil. No worries about them getting respiratory infections really, it doesn't happen often. But, I also don't like using fiberous beddings with heavy chewers like gerbils.

Pine, when kiln-dried properly, is great. Cedar is not. Both have hydrocarbons that can harm the rodents. Kiln drying gets rid of the hydrocarbons. Cedar has an extra toxin though, which is not removed through kiln-drying, called cedrene oil. This oil is toxic enough to cause liver damage and damage to other internal organs just through breathing it in.

Kiln-drying is touchy though. You have to find a company that does it right. Improper drying can lead to harmful molds. Don't use Kaytee or walmart brands. I prefer to use kiln-dried pine shavings from the farm supply store. The kind of stuff they use for horse stalls.

If you don't want any risk at all, use aspen bedding.

Don't listen to anything people say about phenols. If they'd done their research, they'd know that phenols are the beneficial part of pine and cedar.