Ellen Degeneres & Pet Adoption*Update post #16*

[Pam]

my goodness, expecting a puppy to change in such a short amount of time?! There had to be more to the story than just a training issue....

I don't fault the shelter for taking the dog back and/or not allowing an exception; afterall, if they made an exception in this case, they'd have to allow one for all who apply.

In all of this, I feel most sorry for Iggy.

Absolutely agree 100%. Ellen did not read the contract. I'm sure she'll be more careful the next time she has a contract placed in front of her. I applaud the rescue group for not backing down. I think we are all sick of seeing celebrities getting special treatment. Personally, I couldn't help but think that Ellen deserved an Emmy for her performance. Don't get me wrong. I occasionally watch her show and think she is very funny. I just smell something fishy with this whole thing. To melt down in front of millions of people over something like this just doesn't add up. I am sure Iggy will have no trouble finding a new home. The publicity has been good for him too. People will probably be lined up for a chance to adopt him. Let's hope the next family reads the contract.

[RICHARD]

Cesar Milan.

[Catty1]

Who???

[animal_rescue]

Cesar Milan.

I second. Long Live Cesar!

[Craftlady]

I heard tonight on one of the cable news stations (a quick news flash), that the dog was placed in another home (adoption).

[ramanth]

I feel sorry for all the animals at this rescue because this type of attention can't be positive. Hopefully they'll be able to continue to find good homes for their animals.

Perhaps the family can just let go and adopt a dog from a different rescue. Lord knows there are plenty of animals that need homes out there.

[Giselle]

Cesar Milan.

Oh yes, alpha roll the cat

Ellen broke the a legal binding document. When you break a contract, the animal gets taken back. If this happened to one of us, nobody would care. But now, people are sending DEATH THREATS to a non-profit rescue organization and it makes me sick!! Mutts and Moms have had to inactivate their Petfinder link because of the overwhelming e-mails and such. How does that help the other homeless dogs? How does this fiasco help Iggy?? I just feel so bad for Mutts and Moms. They're just doing what they believe is in the best interest of Iggy, and they receive death threats for it.

Ellen should be ashamed for publicising this shameful lack of judgment on her part. As one wise person once said, "You will only defend something if you know it is wrong." Ellen knew what she did was wrong. That's why she's calling on the masses for defense.

[RICHARD]

Oh yes, alpha roll the cat

Do you mean alpha role the cat?

With a Beta down to the Delta? Look out for the Gamma rays.

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Cesar Milan is a spooky guy. This guy absolutely knows dogs-I have learned some things from him....the meter reading guys can come in my yard now! I just tried a few of his methods and they really work.

If anyone can rehabilitate a dog, train a human (his mantra) he would be able to.


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This is the power of a TV show.

Like, why not make a large donation to the rescue? Sponsor some dogs? Pay for some neutering? Spaying? Health care in exchange for the dog?


Here is someone that has the "power of the Oprah " to make causes come to the front of the news and she whines about something that could have been avoided because her SO read the fine print and she didn't.


IN typical famous person fashion, They story goes like this, "it don't work for me.....I'll just get it out of my house......Hey, wanna dog?"

[lizbud]

As one wise person once said, "You will only defend something if you know it is wrong."

I am going along reading all the comments & I read that sentence & stop.

It makes no sense at all. What is this supposed to mean?

[Catsnclay]

Well I am really confused about all of this!


First, the Mutts & Moms: apparently their contract says that they will not adopt out to children under 14. WHY???? The Humane Society doesn't have a problem with kids.

Does their contract state anything about having other pets? Like cats???? We all know that mixing cats & dogs takes a very LONG time to do, but yet there doesn't seem to be a problem with the cats, only the kids

We have adopted all of our cats from various places, and NONE of them has ever called us to see how the cat was fitting in.

Sometimes I wonder if these contracts are just for show.......

I also wonder if this whole thing is being played out because it IS a "high profile" person. If this happened to you or me, do you really think they would have burst into our home, police & attorney in tow just to reclaim a dog??????

I think not.......... Just give the dog back to the girls that have grown to love & care for him, and get on with life. Ok, so now you got your name & orginazation in the news, you got your 15 minutes of fame, so do the right thing.


End of story.

[CathyBogart]

Because M&M is NOT the humane society! They are a private organization and they can adopt or not adopt to whomever the choose. The individuals in the rescue pull these dogs from wherever they get them and spend their time, energy, effort, and love getting them ready to be adopted.

Besides (even though this doesn't really matter) their policies only said that they don't adopt TOY breeds out to children under 14. This is not an uncommon rule for rescues to have.

The rescue we adopted Star from still calls periodically (over a decade later) because her foster mom loved her SO MUCH. We're always delighted to hear from her. I think it's a mark of a great woman that she still cares for the dog she invested so much love into.

Iggy is in a FOREVER home now. As Ellen herself said, this is all about the dog, really, and he has been placed.

As for their 15 minutes of fame...does M&M even EXIST anymore? All of their websites are down, they may very well have been driven out of existence.

M&M gave this family the chance to go through the adoption process, and the family refused. They had every right to reclaim THEIR DOG.

[Pam]

Because M&M is NOT the humane society! They are a private organization and they can adopt or not adopt to whomever the choose.

That's it in a nutshell. It doesn't matter what people think of their contract. The fact remains it is their contract. People don't like it - - they can go elsewhere. God knows there are thousands of homeless dogs in shelters everywhere out there looking for good homes.

[RICHARD]

This is what cracks me up about the whole story.

People who love pets sometimes take extra special precautions, do not hesitate to spend thousands of dollars to treat and care for them.

They buy them the best food, treats and toys.

But yet we all have a problem with a rescue that takes that extra step to assure the safety and well being of an animal.

Could those same "Humane" groups only care that an animal is spayed/neutered then adopted?

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Like CB just stated-

They are a private organization and they can adopt or not adopt to whomever the choose.


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I can see where any agency would not adopt a small breed of animal to a family with kids under the age of 14.

Had something happened to the dog while in the care of the 'new' family would we be so nonchalant then?

Let's change the story and have Ellen start crying about the dog she adopted, gave away and then was run over because some teen left the gate open?

We'd blame her because she broke the rules of the rescue and she didn't follow the contract.


But, that's the way us pet lovers are.


The local news played some of the messages left on the M&M website.

I do not blame them for taking down the websites.

Also, Ellen's publicist called the rescue and threatened them with turning the story over to the media if the dog was not returned to the family.

Good going, jackass.


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I am watching the Dog Whisperer and he is getting a dog and cat to live together....

Pretty incredible.

[sasvermont]

I'm not sure who did what to whom, but boy, could I use a break from this story. I hope this situtation has a good ending at some point.

[Cataholic]

There are many of us on here that understand the love between a pet and ourselves, and probably have had situations where WE were bawling like fools, in front of people, behind closed doors, at night into our pillows. Maybe Ellen, despite her star status, is just like one of us? Unable to hold back? Would use any shameless plug to do what WE thought was right at the moment? Heck, I would go so far as to say there are some of us that might WISH we had more power (be it fame or fortune) to make things different in this world. I know I would resort to nearly anything to save an animal from what I thought was a 'wrong' fate. I have cried over the rehoming of a puppy that I have never even met! I have cried over a dog tied up, or, a stray cat that runs across the road.

So Ellen went public? Why shouldn't she have, if she thought it would bring around the results she wanted? SHE wasn't asking for anything for HER. She wasn't asking for the dog back, surely SHE doesn't need a ratings boost (what, a 3 time emmy winner/nominee?). People all day long, and twice on Sunday use their power or influence to achieve a result they want. Why should she be any different? Oh, that's right, cause she is a *star*.

The documents aren't usually binding, once the adoption has taken place. One can't retain ownership of something they have sold or transferred. I don't know why Ellen voluntarily gave up the information. I wouldn't have. Does that mean I am a completely law-avoiding person? Nope, and chances are good if ANY of you have broken so much as a promise, or a law- even a speeding one, you are in the same boat.

Reading a contract? Most people I know do not read their contracts, let alone understand it.

Moms and mutts didn't want to give in to Ellen? They didn't want to make an exception? Okay. Here is an exercise for all of us. How many of us have been in a situation where an exception WAS made, just for us? Candidly? I had rented apartments for many years, and despite a "strict" no pet policy, I had pets in the apartments. The landlord made, eek, an exception for me. Rules are broken every day, exceptions are made every day. Come on. Somehow, if someone is a *star* they don't get special treatment, they get negative treatment from people.

Moms and mutts dug in their heals, and instead of putting the animals' first, they put their own ideals. How sad for the animals they are helping.


A disclaimer- this post is not made directly with anyone else's post in mind, it is a general statment of my opinion (which does not translate into fact, even in my mind). So, please don't cut and paste some section of it into your own post and somehow manage to find offense with something. It is a general post on a public forum.