Vista

[Hellow]

If you buy an HP, (especially a low end HP) you are getting:

A proprietary motherboard which may or may not be compatible with future upgrades.

Integrated video memory (which isn't going to help with speed)

On-board graphics, as opposed to a separate graphics card

limited (or non-existent) expansion slots

and a "free" 17" monitor........which really means you're buying a $200 computer, a $150 monitor, and they're only charging you $500 for it.

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Actually, the monitor is not included. But i think this is an pretty high powered computer that im getting for $500. Amd im going to buy it online using one of those $8 visa debit cards found at Wal Mart. My computer is comfigured witn an intel Pentium Dual Core processor, Deticated 64MB NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE, DVI-I, TV-out, VGA adapter graphics card, 2 Gigs of memory, an 160 GB 7200 rpm hd, Microsoft(R) Works 8.0, Windows Vista home Premium, Integrated 5.1 Capable Sound w/ front audio ports, LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive, and an 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio ports on the front. This is an customised a6200T desktop by HP. All of that plus an HP Pocket Media Drive bay for $503 plus shipping which my mom will pay. Does anyone agree with me about this being an good computer? I believe in HP because my dad had an HP desktop that lasted him 13 years. And, as i have said, my mom is going to take care of reggie.**** No need to worry or argue that reggie is not getting the proper care because if i spent my money on Reggie my mom would just give me back the same amount.****

[ilovemypup]

Also I would not recommend getting Windows Vista, because since it's new it have a bunch of bugs/gliches/etc etc.

I would wait.

[Hellow]

Also I would not recommend getting Windows Vista, because since it's new it have a bunch of bugs/gliches/etc etc.

I would wait.

Yes but by the time i get this computer ordered Microsoft will have released an Service Pack to fix all of the currently known glitches and bugs and security holes. And i also like the fact that DL.TV uses Vista in their show. And an Wii lol!

[Lady's Human]

Microsquash has been issuing SP's for Vista well prior to it being on the market. It hasn't fixed a damned thing, which is why most comp manufacturers are still offering windows XP as an option.

Frankly, Vista is in the ranks of MS DOS v 4.0 and Windows Me. Operating systems which should have never been released.

As to PC World reviews, they gave Me a good review, and I know many, many people who could never get it to install on their systems, never mind get it working.

[lizbud]

Frankly, Vista is in the ranks of MS DOS v 4.0 and Windows Me. Operating systems which should have never been released.

For what it's worth, I agree with you here. Vista was rushed to market
well before the glitchs were worked out. I wouldn't touch it. It's not
worth all the trouble.

[Hellow]

Yes but it is illogical to buy an Widows XP machine because it wont be supported by Microsoft at all by 2010. No support = No bug-fixes, security patches, service packs, no technical support, etc. And that compunded onto the fact that my current computer is about to blow up literally seems to tell me that i need an new computer.

[critter crazy]

So i guess the question would be, If you already know so much, why even ask for help in the first place??

[Lady's Human]

And Windows NT and Win 2000 Pro are no longer supported by Microsquash, but they are both still in heavy use.

[Hellow]

So i guess the question would be, If you already know so much, why even ask for help in the first place??

For hands on reviews.

[Blue_Frog]

PC: In a nutshell, no. Don't bother going with a brand name - you are paying for the name, and likely support that you won't ever use. If you do as much technical support as you say, then that would not be a problem for you. I build computers, and I would not recommend getting a pre-made PC if you have the knowledge that you say, to build your own.

I do recommend that you look into individual components -- the money isn't going to go bad, or burn a hole in your pocket -- do your research first. Look at the individual components (motherboard, memory, processor, etc.). Browse computer forums for both positive and negative experiences with the hardware you are looking for. Take your time and do it right, and you will have a better item for your money. Here are some examples of pre-mades at Tiger Direct - also cheaper, and does ship if you are going that route. They also sell individual parts, or will build you a custom for those parts.


Vista: In a second and larger nutshell, no. NO NO NO. I've used vista, i've tested software and hardware against vista, and my personal recommendation is that it sucks. hard. But thats just me. Do your own research first - a GIS for Vista Problems, Vista Issues (hey look, an entire forum just named that --- http://www.vistaissues.org/ ) and, just for fun, Vista Sucks. Don't get it in hopes that MS will fix it by the time you get it, thats just shooting yourself in the foot.


In regards to budgeting and your pet: Think VERY strongly before pouring out every last dollar into this. Christmas is coming up, will you have money for something under the tree for your parents and pets (if you do that kind of thing that is)? Even if you set aside $100 for a rainy day, thats better than nothing. From what i've seen in your posts, your family comes and goes with money -- it happens. But, its naive to believe that everything in the future will work out roses after you've spent all your money. What happens, when theres no money, and something bad happens with your dog again, and your parents don't have the money either because its all been spent? Then, having spent the full $500 on a new computer will leave you looking back and feeling like an a##hat. Trust me, i've seen my sister go through that.

I think that all people want you to do is seriously and objectively THINK it through, before jumping into it. /soapbox

[Hellow]

PC: In a nutshell, no. Don't bother going with a brand name - you are paying for the name, and likely support that you won't ever use. If you do as much technical support as you say, then that would not be a problem for you. I build computers, and I would not recommend getting a pre-made PC if you have the knowledge that you say, to build your own.

I do recommend that you look into individual components -- the money isn't going to go bad, or burn a hole in your pocket -- do your research first. Look at the individual components (motherboard, memory, processor, etc.). Browse computer forums for both positive and negative experiences with the hardware you are looking for. Take your time and do it right, and you will have a better item for your money. Here are some examples of pre-mades at Tiger Direct - also cheaper, and does ship if you are going that route. They also sell individual parts, or will build you a custom for those parts.


Vista: In a second and larger nutshell, no. NO NO NO. I've used vista, i've tested software and hardware against vista, and my personal recommendation is that it sucks. hard. But thats just me. Do your own research first - a GIS for Vista Problems, Vista Issues (hey look, an entire forum just named that --- http://www.vistaissues.org/ ) and, just for fun, Vista Sucks. Don't get it in hopes that MS will fix it by the time you get it, thats just shooting yourself in the foot.


In regards to budgeting and your pet: Think VERY strongly before pouring out every last dollar into this. Christmas is coming up, will you have money for something under the tree for your parents and pets (if you do that kind of thing that is)? Even if you set aside $100 for a rainy day, thats better than nothing. From what i've seen in your posts, your family comes and goes with money -- it happens. But, its naive to believe that everything in the future will work out roses after you've spent all your money. What happens, when theres no money, and something bad happens with your dog again, and your parents don't have the money either because its all been spent? Then, having spent the full $500 on a new computer will leave you looking back and feeling like an a##hat. Trust me, i've seen my sister go through that.

I think that all people want you to do is seriously and objectively THINK it through, before jumping into it. /soapbox

Actually, i would build an PC if i had the time. But i have virtually built my own PC on HP's customization page. And i like it. Its everything i need and leaves room for upgrades. The one reason why i keep buying premade PCs is that you pretty much know that it'll work. When you build your own you just don't know. And since DIY PCs have parts from different manufactures such an Segate for Hard Drives but Samsung for Optical drives, you don't know what has gone wrong if your PC suddenly stops working. But with an premade you know what to fix or just call Technical Support and they will know for sure.

[Lady's Human]

I hate to tell you this, but EVERY computer manufacturer outsources parts, and they don't always know what fails. If it falls outside the tech support flowchart, they may or may not be able to help you.

If you DIY and you properly assemble the machine, you will know precisely what fails when. (and if you build it properly it probably won't fail)

You'll also learn more about how the system works.

[Hellow]

I hate to tell you this, but EVERY computer manufacturer outsources parts

Yes, i know. But HP's machienes are manufactured well because mine has survived through 7 years of abuse and moving. And my dads has lasted for 13 years and still runs.I trust most of my digital life to HP and it normally lives up to what i say. And i have personally designed this system so it should meet or exceed my needs. and its still under $500. The rest i will buy toys for Reggie with lol.