Need help with re-training...

[Avalanche Chaser]

I think my concern is more with the fact that he doesn't seem as "trainable" as he used to be. I got him when he was a pup and he's always listened to me PERFECTLY. I've never had any problem training him with anything.

I am not as worried about the grass...it's really not THAT important as he does still go only in one small section of the yard.

One thing that confuses me is that he had his designated area for a year and got used to that as "his" area. So I kept that same area "his" when I installed the landscaping, and now he doesn't use it.

As for the argument that it is more comfortable to stand in grass than small gravel for a few seconds...c'mon. This is a dog that has no problem climbing to the highest peaks in Colorado that are covered in jagged/sharp rocks.

You are correct though when you say I have a great dog. He went pee in the house only one time in his life with me, and I got him when he was 3 months old. I couldn't ask for a better pal; I just want to figure out what is going on.

Thanks for the replies.

AC

[Avalanche Chaser]

Oh yeah...and thanks to Ginger's Mom for the leash suggestion.

I will try that.

[Giselle]

If you "kept" Lhotse's corner by putting gravel in his area, then I think the solution is just that Lhotse prefers to "go" on grass rather than gravel. In fact, one of the best ways to prevent a dog from going in a certain area is to put pebbles or gravel in the area because dogs are naturally inclined to urinate on soft surfaces (that's why dogs, if given the choice, will urinate on rugs rather than laminate floors). Soft ground holds scent better and it soaks up the urine.

Dogs really do live in the moment. If you rebuke him for defecating on the grass, that sends a point across. But if you praise him by moving the poop onto the gravel, that doesn't send any point. His mind is probably going, "So you put poop on the rocks...What did I do to garner this praise?" I'll be honest, it'd probably take an incredibly smart dog to put two and two together and start pooping on the gravel if you train like that. I think your timing of praise and punishment is a little off. If you catch Lhotse pooping in the grass, say "AH!" and pull him over to his corner. Let him finish pooping, and then praise.

Also, I'd get rid of the gravel and keep it plain dirt.

[Avalanche Chaser]

I kept his area as it was. I added nothing, nor removed anything. He used it before with no problem.


Thanks for the replies.

[Avalanche Chaser]

(I always seem to forget something in my first reply)

I understand your point, "I think your timing of praise and punishment is a little off..."

However, I am just using techniques that I have found to work with him before. He is an exceptionally smart dog.

No worries though...I will just mark this whole topic up in the 'oh well' category.

Thanks for all of your replies.