Anyone know of a non toxic dye for animals?

[buttercup132]

Please check with at least a professional groomer about using this on Milo and Duck

I AM a professional groomer.

Donna really how is it stressfull for them?

[catnapper]

I'm not gonna get into whether you should or shouldn't dye them - thats your prerogative.

However, based on the crystals thing, I do have to comment.... yes, by Halloween they should clear up. but they can reappear over night. Crystals are serious and once a cat develops a propensity towards them, they'll continually get them. Ducky is young to start having them, which leads me to believe he'll have them chronically. From my experience with Pouncer, I do anything in my power to keep him stress free... sometimes I think I stress myself out in order to keep him stress free He just had very expensive surgery so that the crystals won't kill him. He'll forever stress and get crystals but now he'll be able to pass them.

Lastly, a LOT of things that are safe for dogs are horribly toxic to cats. So just because a mom dog can groom her pup without getting sick, doesn't mean a cat won't experience a reaction.

If you really want to dye them, contact your local cat folks (not sure what they're called, but its kinda like the AKC for cats) and ask them what they recommend for color.

[CathyBogart]

You know what....I hope you do find something that works well for them, and I'd love to see pictures of them all painted up. I'm planning on giving Jasper a red mohawk for Samhain, we can exchange pics.

[moosmom]

Ya know what, you seem to be hell bent on doing it anyways, no matter what is said here. So be it. Let's just agree to disagree, okay? I'm done here.

Catty1,

I have the book Why Paint Cats and found it very amusing. And you're right, the cats are dyed on their fur, not their skin. My favorite picture is the one with Charlie Chaplin on the cats butt.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

Catty1,

I have the book Why Paint Cats and found it very amusing. And you're right, the cats are dyed on their fur, not their skin. My favorite picture is the one with Charlie Chaplin on the cats butt.

Actually, the cats were not "painted" at all...

I'm happy to report that there is no cause for anger or alarm. Though the cats are real, the paint jobs are not. Most if not all of the lovingly Photoshopped images came from a tongue-in-cheek volume entitled Why Paint Cats: The Ethics of Feline Aesthetics (Ten Speed Press, 2002), written by New Zealanders Burton Silver and Heather Busch, the same pair responsible for the equally deadpan Why Cats Paint (1994) and Dancing with Cats (1999).

Painted Cats

[Catty1]

Crazy-Cat-Lover - you are right! This book is a sequel to one I have that ALMOST had me fooled: "Why Cats Paint" (notice similarity in the title?)

Have attached a page from Snopes that explains this in more detail.

[crow_noir]

Wow, I'm flabbergasted. And outraged. The book was written as total fact. Even if they has said something in the end of the book on the very last page in the tiniest print i wouldn't have cared.

I have seen such outrageous hairdos on people and dogs alike, and the methods they mention do actually exist out there. (I was talking to someone who just went to a beauty academy.)

If it weren't for this book though, i myself never would have dreamed of one day getting my hair dyed. I can at least be grateful for that.

Actually, the cats were not "painted" at all...

[My Peanuts]

Hey BC, sorry you are getting picked on yet again. I know I have said some negative things to you when we don't agree in the past, but sometimes things seem to get out of control and off subject. Anything negative I have said was always with the animals best interest in mind.

That being said, this is a little off the subject, but my (dog) Jimmy had a crystal issue. He had to have ER surgery and he was a case study at the University of Minn. The vets thought it was one thing and it ended up being another. If you need any advice feel free to PM me. Jimmy's issues are turning out to be life long, but he's doing well

[buttercup132]

Thank you for everyone who is being kind
I have never delt with a animal with a chronic problem so no I don't know much about it. I also forgot that stress can cause them. But wouldn't they have been caused when he was brought to my house (new home?) when Milo was brought home? So I don't think it's caused by stress.

I still don't get how it would stres them out though, anyone care to explain?
I can see how it would be stressful to my domestic cats Molly and Hank because they aren't used to get bathed and I guess getting mauled like the Hairless babies are. I don't see how them having something on them for maybe half a hour is going to cause them oh so much stress. They like the water (for when you rinse it off) they will sit there and let you do whatever you want to them (putting it on) and I dont think them being a different colour will effect them as they arne't people and dont go around looking at themsleves in the mirror. Yes they notice changes but as long as you keep telling them they are beautiful they will belive it.

MyPeanuts thank, I think I remember a few threads on him with his problems. I'm glad he is doing well.

And you're right, the cats are dyed on their fur, not their skin.

Not trying to start anything with you personally I would have quoted this no matter who said it but it goes onto their skin. When you dye your hair it goes onto your skin. You have to get it to the roots and the only way of doing that is massaging it into the scalp (skin). Therefore that theory is wrong.

You know what....I hope you do find something that works well for them, and I'd love to see pictures of them all painted up. I'm planning on giving Jasper a red mohawk for Samhain, we can exchange pics.

Thank you, I will be sure to post pictures.

From what everyone has said though about the crystals I probly won't do Ducky and maybe just Milo.

I've had a hard time finding Manic Panic in Canada

I found a bunch on e bay for cheap, 5.65 I think but shipping is $8.00.

she probably is considering because her cats CAN and WILL put up with it, she just wants reassurance of what is safe IN CASE she does it

Yes, I know mine won't mind being fussed over. Most peoples cats would freak if they put clothes on them, but mine are fine with it.

[Alysser]

Kym, I don't want to disagree with you or start a fight with you as you've helped me so much and I truley respect you highly. I trust you alot. But the getting rid of your pets is a little extreme. I honestly don't see anything wrong with dying an animal if it is done in a safe humane way. The animal isn't going to care what their fur looks like so I don't understand how they will be stressed.

I also wanted to point out, Alicia is a groomer. She works as one, she wouldn't have asked this question(s) if she didn't care about the welfare of Duck and Milo.

[crow_noir]

Unless they're King

Kym, I don't want to disagree with you or start a fight with you as you've helped me so much and I truley respect you highly. I trust you alot. But the getting rid of your pets is a little extreme. I honestly don't see anything wrong with dying an animal if it is done in a safe humane way. The animal isn't going to care what their fur looks like so I don't understand how they will be stressed.

I also wanted to point out, Alicia is a groomer. She works as one, she wouldn't have asked this question(s) if she didn't care about the welfare of Duck and Milo.

[DrKym]

Unless they're King

I thad nothing to with what they think about their fur....it has to do with the fact that tey have no fur. There is no buffer of hair as there is with say a poodle or a persioan getting a topical application of chemicals to color their fur.I don't agree with that either, My cats wear clothes too but I still wouldn't dream ofdyeing Woe (who is Gray longhaired) or Lexie who is a hairless. Woe is Gray....he can stay that for Samhain and the rest of the year. Lex is naked, when cold she wears sweaters and jackets she will be wearing a fancy jacket on samhain if it is chilly.If not then she will be wearing what I appreciated most of her breed her soft skin unadorned.

and Crow tell King he is hot! lol