Pregnant Scottish Terrier

[ScottieMommy]

The thing is before you get help in the forums you MUST swallow all the insults and bad treatment that they give you. Then they might realize that whats done is done and maybe at least try to help.

I dont need to be here to be treated like garbage. Because i have more people in other forums that instead of trash talk to me they HELP me.

I dont care what you got to say on here. I dont care about your opinion all i wanted was an answer.

[critter crazy]

The thing is before you get help in the forums you MUST swallow all the insults and bad treatment that they give you. Then they might realize that whats done is done and maybe at least try to help.

I dont need to be here to be treated like garbage. Because i have more people in other forums that instead of trash talk to me they HELP me.

I dont care what you got to say on here. I dont care about your opinion all i wanted was an answer.

I think you have gotten answers, you just choose to ignore them.

I am not sure what help you are looking for anyways?? people have told you the best ways to care for your dog, while pregnant. what more do you need??

I your first post, you asked what we thought in reguards to your dog possibly being prgnant- we cannot tell from pics, you need to get an ultra sound, simple.

In your second post, you asked if you were feding her too much- you need to feed your dog a proper diet, which does not include people food. this is in no way good for any dog, let alone a pregnant one.

You also raised concerns reguarding her vomiting and Diarhea- This could be caused by the change in food, the added human food, or many numerous things. If she is still vommiting and having diarhea i would take her to the vets to get checked out.

as far as I can tell, all your questions thus far has been answered. Not sure what else you are looking for?

as far as peole asking questions, while you are looking for answers, well sometimes we need more info to give you the correct answers.

is there anything I have missed??

[ScottieMommy]

I am not sure what help you are looking for anyways?? people have told you the best ways to care for your dog, while pregnant. what more do you need??

I your first post, you asked what we thought in reguards to your dog possibly being prgnant- we cannot tell from pics, you need to get an ultra sound, simple.

(Taken for palpation to the vet on day 25, felt two little things) Waiting for days 50-55 for x rays)

In your second post, you asked if you were feding her too much- you need to feed your dog a proper diet, which does not include people food. this is in no way good for any dog, let alone a pregnant one.

(Let me tell you something i ALWAYS post in threads. I had a 6 year old Dalmatian who got pregnant without me even knowing, i was not caring for her i was away. No one ever told me she mated. I NEVER took her to the vet because she was not acting strange, she was mellow like always and did not show any signs, was not time for a yearly check up or shots. I believe 63 days later she had the first puppy in my bed and went all the way to 7! Sadly two where born dead the rest where happy and healthy. She had them without any special care through the pregnancy because i did NOT know she was expecting)

You also raised concerns reguarding her vomiting and Diarhea- This could be caused by the change in food, the added human food, or many numerous things. If she is still vommiting and having diarhea i would take her to the vets to get checked out.

(Did you NOT read what i posted yesterday? I took her to the vet at 5)


Yes but i came here looking for other opinions. Something like
"Well i dont know if your dog looks pregnant for sure" OR
"I believe you need to wait a little longer" NOT
"OMG you are so cruel to your dog abort them and get her spayed" OR
"You are such a cruel person how could you?"

HOW can anyone be in the forums if this is what they get!

[critter crazy]

Yes but i came here looking for other opinions. Something like
"Well i dont know if your dog looks pregnant for sure" OR
"I believe you need to wait a little longer" NOT
"OMG you are so cruel to your dog abort them and get her spayed" OR
"You are such a cruel person how could you?"

HOW can anyone be in the forums if this is what they get!

well how do those answers you described, help you?? If that is all you are looking for than you came to the wrong place!! Sounds like you just wanted to "Show off" your pregnant dog, more than anything!

and once again, we are all entitled to our own opinions!

[ScottieMommy]

I know you all complain about me and all, i know this was a HUGE mistake. But before you go off at me read this post i added in my other forum please.

And no i was NOT showing anything off to anyone.
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I read a website for Wizzard and Claws i believe it was, they get their "stock" as they like to call it from puppymills so they changed their name because lots of owners where complaining that puppies where dying. They sold them for over $1000 and up to $5000!!!! When they where on "sale" they went for $600 or so. Anyways i saw the order form puppymills gave this place. Some read like this

Maltese Puppies 2 for $500
Shih Tzu Puppies $250 each buy 2 get third FREE!
Dalmatian $300 each get second half price!!

Can you actually believe this? By the way then the Maltese was sold for $2500 or more. And the order form was exacly like ordering a book or so. You checked off how many you wanted and what breeds.

But in their new website they say they are a reputable breeder and every dog is loved and cared for. Thats a BIG lie they dont even own their parents. They also show pictures of celebrities of who bought puppies there and are very happy with them and also of costumers. I am sure the celeb photos are fake and the rest are as well. They have to keep changing their name because more people are complaining. Is an online pet store too!

if you want the whole scoop on this please visit the website below.

http://www.stopwizardofclaws.com/

How they order their puppies!

http://www.stopwizardofclaws.com/How...e_Ordered.html

How much puppies are actually worth and how much they sell them for.

http://www.stopwizardofclaws.com/Pup...tual_Cost.html

You can visit first link for more.

[Ginger's Mom]

Many of us are aware that puppy mills and agents exist. It is a horrible thing, and if the owner of a puppy mill or an agent posted on here they would probably meet with a lot of opposition. I am not sure what the purpose of your above post is other than to make us aware of the practice. It doesn't change anything.

(Let me tell you something i ALWAYS post in threads. I had a 6 year old Dalmatian who got pregnant without me even knowing, i was not caring for her i was away. No one ever told me she mated. I NEVER took her to the vet because she was not acting strange, she was mellow like always and did not show any signs, was not time for a yearly check up or shots. I believe 63 days later she had the first puppy in my bed and went all the way to 7! Sadly two where born dead the rest where happy and healthy. She had them without any special care through the pregnancy because i did NOT know she was expecting)

It is hard to tell when you are quoting someone and when you are "speaking" for yourself. Since I do not see this mentioned anywhere else in this thread I assume it is you that is stating this. So this isn't the first time that you had an unspayed female become pregnant by "accident." What happened to the five surviving puppies, did you keep them? Are you financially prepared to care for five puppies as they grow into dogs if that happens again?

[RedyreRotties]

bottom line is, ScottieMommie, you have lied, mishandled your bitch, and irresponsible either bred her intentionally or carelessly allowed it to happen.

Then you come here, ask questions, and then when you don't like the answers you got (same at at PDGS), you get your back all up and get rude and defensive.

Your bitch has unverifiable background, is from a questionable source, is too young to be bred, has not had appropriate health testing, and should not be bred AT ALL, much less with a dog of a different breed. The smart thing to do is to SPAY your bitch. The very LEAST to do is have an ultrasound or a Relaxin blood test to determine if she is ACTUALLY in whelp.

You should also keep in mind that there are numerous complications that can happen during whelping and post whelping, up to and including the death of the bitch and/or all the puppies. Things happen like malpresentations, uterine inertia, emergency C sections, cleft palates, intestines on the outside of the body, mothers who have not enough milk, or no milk, or poison milk that kills all the puppies, eclampsia (which can kill a bitch after delivery), uterine infections post parturition (which can cause poison milk, and kill all the puppies and the bitch).

If you get through whelping safely, then you must get the puppies raised. Scotty bitches can be quite territorial with puppies, so be ready for that. You will need dewormer, vaccines, tail docking and dew claw removal by 3 days of age. If you don't keep your house quarantined, your puppies can make 5 weeks old only to die of Parvo or Distemper before they are old enough to be vaccinated.

Most of the time breeding dogs is about DEATH right along with new life. All breeders know that every breeding can mean the life of their bitch. I hope you don't have to find that out the hard way like so many people have.

[ScottieMommy]

Thanks Redeye for the consern. Like i said this is not my first time. I had a pregnant Dalmatian once and if you read the story you would know =] Nothing of what you listed happend. BUT there is always a first time for everything. By the way why would i have their tails docked? Scotties dont have docked tails. It is a preference. By the way if you mend it that way.

[wolfsoul]

Breeding is not just about cute puppies. There is alot of heartache involved. Hopefully you don't find out the hard way. A good breeder breeds for the better of the breed. And they make themselves comfortable with the fact that their breeding program always comes before their dogs. Can you honestly tell yourself that you will be okay if your dogs dies giving birth? Or dies after mastitis goes unnoticed and the infection gets into her bloodstream? Or dies because a stillborn puppy remained in her uterus and started an infection? When you breed a dog, you have to know the risks involved. Those of us that do it for the better of the breed have to look at the breed as a whole and continue looking at the future, and while we love our dogs dearly and do the best we can, bad things still happen. It doesn't stop most of us because the future of the breed is still important to us.
You don't even have a breed to better when breeding mixes. So what is important to you? What makes you put your dog's life at risk?
If you can't answer these questions, how canyou expect to deal with the real thing?
Breeding can have great rewards..But it can have it's heartaches. Just prepare yourself for the worst. And in the future, make better decisions. I will always regret breeding my first litter before I knew the pedigree well enough. I spent thousands, and ended up with singleton puppy I am now placing due to temperament problems that could have been avoided...IF I had done my research properly. I will never make the same mistake again, because in the end it is the dogs that end up hurting. I'd also recommend fostering. Before your start adding to the population...It is good to help out those without homes.