Pregnant Scottish Terrier

**Lady's Human** · 09-14-2007, 07:37 PM

And how much are the vet bills for the pregnant puppy going to cost you? This is impossible to justify away. No matter how you look at it it is a poor decision.

**sasvermont** · 09-14-2007, 08:01 PM

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

**Freedom** · 09-14-2007, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by sasvermont

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

Maybe we are all being too subtle.

**ScottieMommy** · 09-14-2007, 08:18 PM

Well do you think if she was sick i would not take her to the vet? Infact today we had an app at 5 and we did go. What makes you think i wont take her to the vet?

I will do anything to make sure this puppies make it sound and healthy.

When you get a dog you are making a commitment that no matter what happends she/he will get the care they deserve, that goes if she is pregnant or not. So i dont see a problem here.

**Lady's Human** · 09-14-2007, 09:01 PM

My point about the vet is this:

You were complaining about adoption fees.

You have a pregnant dog.

The pregnant dog's vet bills could easily run into the $1000 range by the time all is said and done. That's enough money to save several dogs from being put to sleep.

SPAY THE DOG!

Spend the money at the shelter instead of the vet's office!

**Giselle** · 09-14-2007, 09:02 PM

The problem is that there are approximately 3-4 million dogs and puppies in shelters yearly. Of those dogs, 56.4% are euthanized.

Is that clear enough? It's a matter of ETHICS, not physical "rights and wrongs". Is it ethical to breed litters of mixed breed dogs for the sole purpose of "companionship" when there are literally 3-4 million of these type of dogs languishing in shelters every year? As much as you want to live in your fantasy world, not every one of your puppy buyers will be able to provide a stable home for life. It's the hard, cold truth. And I'd be glad to discuss this with you 5 years from now when your dog's puppies are no longer cute and fluffy and when their owners are going through life problems like marital and moving issues.

But since you don't seem concerned with the ethical implications, let me lay it out in a medical sense:
Are your and your friend's dog tested for every single possible congenital disease? PRA? Luxating patellas? Do either of your dogs have a genetic predisposition to epilepsy (this is, by the way, impossible to determine without a pedigree)? Do they have genetic predispositions to cancer (again, can't determine without a pedigree)?

What will you do when your dog's puppies suddenly develop these health problems? If you can deal with the guilt, go ahead - breed. Personally, I can't subject other dogs to die while I breed potentially unhealthy puppies.

**Alysser** · 09-14-2007, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by ScottieMommy

When you get a dog you are making a commitment that no matter what happends she/he will get the care they deserve, that goes if she is pregnant or not. So i dont see a problem here.

I wasn't aware that breeding your dog by accident was PART of that commitment.

**ScottieMommy** · 09-14-2007, 09:54 PM

This breeding was an accident. And just to let you all know when the Poodle was over it was Nenas 3rd day into heat and someone well said to me that they cant get pregnant untill day 11 or so i believe. No one was born knowing it all.

These puppies will get ALL that is needed for them PERIOD.

**Lady's Human** · 09-14-2007, 10:05 PM

So go to a shelter, pick out two dogs, and pay for them to be PTS.

Essentially, that's what you are doing by breeding mixed breed dogs. There could be shelter puppies/dogs being adopted, but no, you breed more mutts.

Might as well make it official and do it in person.

**Kfamr** · 09-14-2007, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by sasvermont

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

The fact that this person (the OP) posted the same situation on another forum I'm on and got A LOT of great advice and information (people were slightly nicer there, though.) Seems not much will get through to the OP and I wish her and her dog luck.

**ScottieMommy** · 09-14-2007, 10:13 PM

By the way i was NOT complaining money wise. I was making a point about how a NON kill shelter could ask so much when a kill shelter asks for so little thats all. And a non kill shelter could make a HUGE mistake like calling a Puggle a purebred and charging as much as they do with purebred dogs.

**Flatcoatluver** · 09-14-2007, 10:22 PM

Do you know what a non kill shelter even is? It's run all by foster parents, so of course there going to cost more. It cost more to have animals in foster homes, instead of keeping them in cages. Adopting a dog is really cheap compared to buying it from a breeder. They come already neutered/spayed, vaccinated, wormed, mircrochipped, and many other things.

**mr.chiwawa** · 09-14-2007, 10:26 PM

ON A HAPPY NOTE I BECOME A FOSTER MOMMY ON MONDAY I WILL POST PICTURES FOR ALL YOU THAT SUPPORT THE SAME CAUSE I DO....

OH AND LIKE I STATED EARLIER THERE IS NO CURE FOR STUPID PEOPLE

**ScottieMommy** · 09-14-2007, 10:32 PM

I rather donate to a kill shelter then a non kill shelter, they GOT all the time in the world for those dogs others get 10 days!!

OH AND LIKE I STATED EARLIER THERE IS NO CURE FOR STUPID PEOPLE

Ohhh really? Thats interesting guess you where one of those born genious.