Pregnant Scottish Terrier

[Freedom]

This is BYB. You should be getting this poor dog in for an abort and spay before it is too late.

You have mixed breeds. You had not researched; don't know or seem to care WHAT the standard if for the breed. No testing, no concerns about what genetically may turn out wrong with puppies. I agree wit the above, if you and grandma wanted puppies, go to a shelter. Now go take care of your dear Nena while you can.

[ScottieMommy]

My grandmother was not looking for a puppy at the moment. She LOVES Nena and told me if she was ever to have puppies she will take one for sure. Her oldest dog recently passed away two months ago.

By the way some shelters make it really hard to adopt sometimes. Like if you rent half the shelters or more will turn you down and they are really strick. I am sure that an animal lover who rents will NOT return a dog to a shelter.

Down here in my city i was looking at Petfinder once and one no kill shelter adopts out dogs for $250 if there purebred and they even give you papers that owner left for more charge which is pathetic! They even wanted $250 for a Puggle and added him under the purebred list. Are you kidding me? That seriously got me mad, how they compare purebreds to mutts in a shelter and charge more. While the kill shelters charges $55 for ALL dogs and they need the money even more.

[Lady's Human]

And how much are the vet bills for the pregnant puppy going to cost you? This is impossible to justify away. No matter how you look at it it is a poor decision.

[sasvermont]

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

[Freedom]

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

Maybe we are all being too subtle.

[ScottieMommy]

Well do you think if she was sick i would not take her to the vet? Infact today we had an app at 5 and we did go. What makes you think i wont take her to the vet?

I will do anything to make sure this puppies make it sound and healthy.

When you get a dog you are making a commitment that no matter what happends she/he will get the care they deserve, that goes if she is pregnant or not. So i dont see a problem here.

[Lady's Human]

My point about the vet is this:

You were complaining about adoption fees.

You have a pregnant dog.

The pregnant dog's vet bills could easily run into the $1000 range by the time all is said and done. That's enough money to save several dogs from being put to sleep.

SPAY THE DOG! Spend the money at the shelter instead of the vet's office!

[Giselle]

The problem is that there are approximately 3-4 million dogs and puppies in shelters yearly. Of those dogs, 56.4% are euthanized.

Is that clear enough? It's a matter of ETHICS, not physical "rights and wrongs". Is it ethical to breed litters of mixed breed dogs for the sole purpose of "companionship" when there are literally 3-4 million of these type of dogs languishing in shelters every year? As much as you want to live in your fantasy world, not every one of your puppy buyers will be able to provide a stable home for life. It's the hard, cold truth. And I'd be glad to discuss this with you 5 years from now when your dog's puppies are no longer cute and fluffy and when their owners are going through life problems like marital and moving issues.

But since you don't seem concerned with the ethical implications, let me lay it out in a medical sense:
Are your and your friend's dog tested for every single possible congenital disease? PRA? Luxating patellas? Do either of your dogs have a genetic predisposition to epilepsy (this is, by the way, impossible to determine without a pedigree)? Do they have genetic predispositions to cancer (again, can't determine without a pedigree)?

What will you do when your dog's puppies suddenly develop these health problems? If you can deal with the guilt, go ahead - breed. Personally, I can't subject other dogs to die while I breed potentially unhealthy puppies.

[Alysser]

When you get a dog you are making a commitment that no matter what happends she/he will get the care they deserve, that goes if she is pregnant or not. So i dont see a problem here.

I wasn't aware that breeding your dog by accident was PART of that commitment.

[Kfamr]

I don't think the message is getting through to the originator.

The fact that this person (the OP) posted the same situation on another forum I'm on and got A LOT of great advice and information (people were slightly nicer there, though.) Seems not much will get through to the OP and I wish her and her dog luck.

[ScottieMommy]

By the way i was NOT complaining money wise. I was making a point about how a NON kill shelter could ask so much when a kill shelter asks for so little thats all. And a non kill shelter could make a HUGE mistake like calling a Puggle a purebred and charging as much as they do with purebred dogs.

[Flatcoatluver]

Do you know what a non kill shelter even is? It's run all by foster parents, so of course there going to cost more. It cost more to have animals in foster homes, instead of keeping them in cages. Adopting a dog is really cheap compared to buying it from a breeder. They come already neutered/spayed, vaccinated, wormed, mircrochipped, and many other things.

[crow_noir]

It is NOT pathetic. A lot of times these dogs come to these rescues in very poor condition and need a lot of vet care. Not to mention the time they spend in the care of the rescue. There's the cost of food. The cost of gas if the rescues do adoption day events.

You may spend a very low price for a shelter dog, but you spend just as much, if not more in vets costs.

Down here in my city i was looking at Petfinder once and one no kill shelter adopts out dogs for $250 if there purebred and they even give you papers that owner left for more charge which is pathetic! They even wanted $250 for a Puggle and added him under the purebred list. Are you kidding me? That seriously got me mad, how they compare purebreds to mutts in a shelter and charge more. While the kill shelters charges $55 for ALL dogs and they need the money even more.

[crow_noir]

Ugggh!!! See, this is the attitude right here that i find disgusting! Would you suggest the same thing to a human mother that hasn't even had one child yet?

I can see if this dog had been mated by something twice its size getting an abortion, but not for something like this.

These pups are on the way whether you like it or not, let's at least be civil with this poster and give as much advice as we can for a HEALTHY mom and litter.

You should be getting this poor dog in for an abort and spay before it is too late.